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(Yet) more Dreamliner issues…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25068222

Boeing just can’t get a break at the minute.

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By: Mr Creosote - 29th November 2013 at 11:39

Rightly or wrongly, the world at large is going to see this as another “Dreamliner” problem, and to be fair the meeja are hardly likely to print stories about aero engine problems without mentioning the aircraft they power. To most people, the engines are just another part of the Boeing aircraft and they have no interest in who made them, any more than if it were (for example) an IFE issue; as such it is inevitably going to be seen as Boeing’s problem. Not fair, but as others have said, the 787 is fundamentally a great aircraft, and will ride all this out.

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By: nJayM - 28th November 2013 at 15:36

News Reporters being reporters or maybe they should be porters yet in fairness

In the original article with which this thread was started by Amiga500

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25068222

“……..He said GE and Boeing were hoping to eliminate the problem by modifying the engine control system software…….”

Shared responsibility for resolving the issue but the “Badge” is carried for the entire aircraft by Boeing – who IMO are strong enough to “weather” this problem which will not be the last- but that will certainly not stop the 787 being a desirable aircraft for many years to come.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 26th November 2013 at 06:25

Didn’t RR sort out the Trent 800 problem when one went bang on a Qantas A380?

I would have thought this issue would be for GE to sort out, but I’ll concede that I’m not entirely sure.

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By: j_jza80 - 26th November 2013 at 03:29

By the looks of it it’s not an actual problem with the aircraft itself but the GE engines because it states that BA with Rolls Royce engines hasn’t had any problems.

Seems like the press want associate any issue with the aircraft itself rather than something that is, in some ways, outside Boeing’s control

It is Boeing responsibility to assess any engines they supply with their aircraft, so it is as much (if not more) Boeings issue as it is GEs.

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By: Derekf - 25th November 2013 at 13:09

We had a similar icing issue on a 4-engined British airliner a few years ago. It was the aircraft maunfacturer , in conjunction with the engine manufacturer, that had to fix it.
The engine is installed on a Boeing aircraft so Boeing will be responsible for getting the probelem fixed. Obviously GE will involved but it will be Boeing’s problem.

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By: Hand87_5 - 25th November 2013 at 12:57

Aren’t icing issues that put down a BA 777 at LHR a few year’s back?

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By: Bmused55 - 25th November 2013 at 10:34

Yup, this is a GENX issue. Something GE are working on.
Perhaps should have been spotting in ground and flight tests. But then, sometimes those tests don’t always manage to replicate all the variables. And it could be a very specific set of conditions that have to be met for the icing issue to occur.

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By: Spiteful - 24th November 2013 at 23:22

Yes, Lufthansa warned… not even a 787 operator. The Article calls it a 787 problem yet reports is as an engine issue which it clearly is…shocking reporting

Lufthansa have 747-8’s so are affected by the GENX engines fitted.

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By: garryrussell - 24th November 2013 at 22:51

Yes, Lufthansa warned… not even a 787 operator. The Article calls it a 787 problem yet reports is as an engine issue which it clearly is…shocking reporting

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By: cloud_9 - 24th November 2013 at 21:55

nick40moose is right…it’s not Boeing’s fault or problem to solve, it would come down to engine manufacturer, in this case GE.

Of course due to amount of bad press that the aircraft in general has had since it launched, the media will pretty much do anything to link two stories that are about the same subject, in this case the Dreamliner, and try to make out that situation is a lot worse than it actually is.

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By: nick40moose - 23rd November 2013 at 22:50

By the looks of it it’s not an actual problem with the aircraft itself but the GE engines because it states that BA with Rolls Royce engines hasn’t had any problems.

Seems like the press want associate any issue with the aircraft itself rather than something that is, in some ways, outside Boeing’s control

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By: LERX - 23rd November 2013 at 22:30

you beat me to it! 😉

More bad news for the “Dreamliner”. Not the kind of dream(s) Boeing planned.

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