Cargolux and the B748

My head is spinning. Who, what, when?!

Looks like things have got even more complicated/interesting.
Atlas Air have just announced that they are cancelling the first three aircraft in their order due to these performance limitations.
Interestingly, it looks like British Airways are set to receive some 747-8’s (under wet lease)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/09/21/362387/atlas-air-nixes-order-for-three-747-8fs.html

It’s not actually British Airways getting the -8F’s, it’s GSS (Global Supply Sytems) getting them and operating them on behalf of BAWC, like they currently do with -400F’s. Complicated arrangement. Dry-leased from AtlasAir and wet-leased on ACMI contract to BAWC.

Is the 747-8 in Trouble?!

Looks like things have got even more complicated/interesting.
Atlas Air have just announced that they are cancelling the first three aircraft in their order due to these performance limitations.
Interestingly, it looks like British Airways are set to receive some 747-8’s (under wet lease)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/09/21/362387/atlas-air-nixes-order-for-three-747-8fs.html

*thread drift on* mrtotty, do you drive with a light foot or a leadfoot? I would guess the former… *thread drift off*

Drive a Renault Clio dCi like I do. It is one of the few cars that actually meets and often exceeds the official economy figure. I get 72 mpg out of my 100,000 mile example.
If only the B747-8 was as good!

Well, in that case the world’s automotive industry is doomed. I don’t think there is a single car whose factory fuel economy matches real life-fuel economy. And usually the difference is comfortably in the double digit percentage points.

I was using the term as a very basic example but thanks for pointing that out.:confused:

It’s like ordering a new Ford Fiesta that is supposed to do 60mpg and finding out it weighs the same as a Focus and only does 50mpg!

Well, in that case the world’s automotive industry is doomed. I don’t think there is a single car whose factory fuel economy matches real life-fuel economy. And usually the difference is comfortably in the double digit percentage points.

Aircraft is over the stated empty weight and not making the guaranteed specific fuel consumption. I wouldn’t take it either. It’s like ordering a new Ford Fiesta that is supposed to do 60mpg and finding out it weighs the same as a Focus and only does 50mpg!

Only two options

1. Refuse delivery until it does what it says on the tin or

2. Negotiate a large financial package as compensation for loss of payload/fuel consumption and take delivery on the proviso that all future deliveries make the guarantee and the already-delivered airplanes are modified at a later date free of charge.

You seem to imply they won’t take the type at all, but as I read it they will not take delivery of the aircraft due on Monday and pulling out of the delivery ceromony. I think they are saying they won’t take it until the issues are sorted rather than never and have withdrawn there staff because at the moment there is no pint in keeping them there until a base to move on is achived.

As you say…time will tell

And for those of us who often skip links, Cargolux will not take delivery of the 748! 😮 Time will tell…………………………….:D