November 5, 2010 at 9:29 pm
2 Problems In 2 Days At The Same Airport?!
By: Flightmech - 7th November 2010 at 15:31
wow, completely disagree. 747 event is so worth reporting even without 380 one. An aircraft carrying more than 400 passengers had to return. This was serious.
No it wasn’t. This kind of thing happens weekly or at a higher frequency somewhere around the world. Engine problem (mechanical or birdstrike etc) IFSD and return to departure airport or land at nearest suitable if en-route. If the QF A380 incident hadn’t happened then the QF 744 one wouldn’t have even got a mention.:rolleyes:
By: PMN - 7th November 2010 at 12:35
An aircraft carrying more than 400 passengers had to return. This was serious.
Serious enough to warrant being sprawled over the news? If an aircraft has a bird strike then it generally has to return to the airport, so if this happens on a 747 carrying 500 people then is it really worth putting “plane returns to airport after hitting bird” all the media? I’m not really seeing it to be honest. I agree with Michael, I’m fairly sure had the A380 incident not happened then no-one would care in the slightest about the 747 incident, and the BBC in reporting the 747 mishap spent more time discussing the A380 anyway!
By: T5 - 7th November 2010 at 04:00
wow, completely disagree. 747 event is so worth reporting even without 380 one. An aircraft carrying more than 400 passengers had to return. This was serious.
My parents flew with Gulf Air back in 2008, and, a few minutes after departing from Heathrow, one of the engines apparently shut down. The Captain told passengers only that the engine had stopped working and that they would have to turn back to London.
The thing is, this incident, along with so many others that must happen (perhaps on a daily basis) was not mentioned in the news, despite 200-and-something passengers and crew being on board.
I agree that any problem that forces an aircraft to make an emergency landing is severe, but I disagree that the reporting of the 747 incident was necessary. And despite what you might think, I am certain that if the A380 incident had not have occurred a few days ago, we would have known nothing about the 747.
By: foxmulder - 6th November 2010 at 15:29
Had the A380 a few days ago not have experienced the engine problems it did, this relatively minor (in comparison) issue with a 747 would never have been brought to the attention of the world.
With the airline industry going through tough times at the moment, this unnecessary reporting could have catastrophic consequences for Qantas. At a time when every airline in the world is fighting to fill seats, Qantas has the added challenge of convincing the travelling public that they are a safe airline.
The A380 incident was news-worthy. The 747 not so.
wow, completely disagree. 747 event is so worth reporting even without 380 one. An aircraft carrying more than 400 passengers had to return. This was serious.
By: symon - 6th November 2010 at 06:51
They have had a run of bad luck. These two engine events in the past few days and the other uncontained engine failure back in August. Then a couple of years ago they had that oxygen bottle explode and the A330 the same year that had a couple of rapid decent moments when the computer had a hissy fit.
Be it bad luck or something else, you can’t deny Qantas have had a bit of a rough time recently compared to other airlines!
By: T5 - 6th November 2010 at 02:37
Had the A380 a few days ago not have experienced the engine problems it did, this relatively minor (in comparison) issue with a 747 would never have been brought to the attention of the world.
With the airline industry going through tough times at the moment, this unnecessary reporting could have catastrophic consequences for Qantas. At a time when every airline in the world is fighting to fill seats, Qantas has the added challenge of convincing the travelling public that they are a safe airline.
The A380 incident was news-worthy. The 747 not so.
By: PeeDee - 6th November 2010 at 02:11
ex Statistical analyst.
The word Engine should probably be removed from the hypothesis. There must be another common denominator, like crap routine inter-flight maintenance befitting a low-cost ill-trained outfit (Not the proper one in Germany), bad practice by aircrew (Dunno what, but you see where I’m thinking) and such.
And, we can always prove that there is no such thing as pure coincidence. Just as we can prove that there is, if that’s how you want the results!
By: pauldyson1uk - 6th November 2010 at 00:49
I wonder if there are any statisticians or actuaries on here.
What are the chances of two large airliners from the same airline suffering engine trouble shortly after take-off from the same airport in 2 days?
Pure coincidence?
of course it is, what else do you think it is?
By: LERX - 5th November 2010 at 23:38
I wonder if there are any statisticians or actuaries on here.
What are the chances of two large airliners from the same airline suffering engine trouble shortly after take-off from the same airport in 2 days?
Pure coincidence?
By: cloud_9 - 5th November 2010 at 22:20
Better safe than sorry!;)
By: KabirT - 5th November 2010 at 22:19
Quantas have had a number of incidents over the last couple of years – some people have linked this to a move from domestic maintenance to places with cheaper labour.
Is there any veracity to this?
They are not the only airline getting maintenances done in Malaysia. For example, Jet Airways has been getting it done since 1994 and has never faced any incident.
Plus if i am not wrong QF 380s go to Germany for maintenance?
By: Cking - 5th November 2010 at 22:04
Stuff happens.
I had a similar phrase in mind
It’s Qantas’s turn in the barrel! every incident involving a QF flight will be headline news for the next week of so. Also the law of sod dictates that Qantas will have another incident in the next week or so with an engine.
Rgds Cking
By: shadowpuppet - 5th November 2010 at 21:57
Quantas have had a number of incidents over the last couple of years – some people have linked this to a move from domestic maintenance to places with cheaper labour.
Is there any veracity to this?
By: J Boyle - 5th November 2010 at 21:39
2 Problems In 2 Days At The Same Airport?!
Stuff happens.