Man told to get off flight for being too fat

If they would not only sell 2 seats but also make sure that he is placed directly next to the main doors, then it would make sense and a court would be hard pressed to find a discrimination issue.

Hang on!!!!
So us anorexics have to sit away from the emergecy exits so the salad dodgers can wobble there first????

Rgds Cking

No. He is not asking for the same service. He is demanding a better service, at the same price. His weight makes him incapable of using the same service.

BTW, 203 kg is not slightly overweight. It is grossly overweight.

He must have eaten more than two average people to get to that weight. Were the people who sold him that food guilty of discrimination, for charging him more than they would have charged for half as much food? If I buy a cake for myself & my partner, & he buys the same cake & eats it all himself, is he discriminated against by being charged the same for his cake as we are for the cake we share?

This is exactly the same: he weighs much more than the two of us combined, & takes up as much seating as we do between us. He should therefore pay what we pay, not half as much. If he needs two seats, he must pay for them.

In legal terms he asks for the exact same service. And personally I think it does not address the main problem, which is safety, when you sell 2 seats to a fat person. 2 seats do not make him fall out of an emergency exit any faster.

If they would not only sell 2 seats but also make sure that he is placed directly next to the main doors, then it would make sense and a court would be hard pressed to find a discrimination issue.

Forgot to mention also – as others have alluded to…
There are also the safety implications vis a vis the blocking of aisles and exit doors by obese passengers,it really is a serious matter !
Not to mention the overall problem of our expanding nation…very serious health implications for those unwilling to change lifestyle !!

Stacks of funny jokey references to fat people here, like most places. Do you know anyone who is fat? Do you understand the feelings they have? Do you think of why they are fat? Or do you assume they are lazy? I can tell you it is no joke for them or their family. I can tell you in 80 percent of cases it is a medical problem and needs to be treated.

When I was a lad in bonny scotland ( and even when we had to move ‘dahn sarf) 1960-’70 we were all mostly skinny wee things,there was of course the occasional boy who was a little larger (these boys I suspect with a medical issue of some sort).
The difference was that we ate a reasonable amount of food (some people were undernourished) and we were always out playing etc.
Nowadays many people (as previously mentioned) simply over eat or eat the wrong stuff…its not really rocket science !
I am a little overweight myself but at the age of 57 have bought a mountainbike and am eating sensibly to lose weight 🙂
But I have never used any excuse about my weight !we are what we eat 😀
I had not ridden a push bike for 40 years and I can tell you that my legs are effing killing me :rolleyes:

rgds baz

That is discrimination. He would have to pay more for the same service, because he is slightly overweight.

The safety issue is serious imho, but that is not solved by having those people pay more.

No. He is not asking for the same service. He is demanding a better service, at the same price. His weight makes him incapable of using the same service.

BTW, 203 kg is not slightly overweight. It is grossly overweight.

He must have eaten more than two average people to get to that weight. Were the people who sold him that food guilty of discrimination, for charging him more than they would have charged for half as much food? If I buy a cake for myself & my partner, & he buys the same cake & eats it all himself, is he discriminated against by being charged the same for his cake as we are for the cake we share?

This is exactly the same: he weighs much more than the two of us combined, & takes up as much seating as we do between us. He should therefore pay what we pay, not half as much. If he needs two seats, he must pay for them.

That is discrimination. He would have to pay more for the same service, because he is slightly overweight.

The safety issue is serious imho, but that is not solved by having those people pay more.

Stacks of funny jokey references to fat people here, like most places. Do you know anyone who is fat? Do you understand the feelings they have? Do you think of why they are fat? Or do you assume they are lazy? I can tell you it is no joke for them or their family. I can tell you in 80 percent of cases it is a medical problem and needs to be treated.

That’s silly. The number of people with obesity caused by medical conditions is very, very small. For all but a tiny minority, the cause is very simple: too much food and too little activity.

BTW, I’ve been ill for the last few months, & have gained weight. Not caused by the illness, but because I’ve been inactive, & have not reduced my food intake much. I’ve been eating as much as when I was cycling 100 miles a week. Some of it has been comfort eating. I’ve been bored, miserable, & unable to do much, & it’s very tempting to eat something tasty. This phenomenon has the potential to be misinterpreted as gaining weight due to a medical condition, but it is not.

Input = output. Food in = activity or weight gain. To lose weight, eat less and do more. Simple. Any contrary arguments are wishful thinking.

BTW, some interesting experiments have been done with estimated & measured food intake. Put people in rooms in which all food taken in, & leftover food taken out, is measured precisely. Get them to report exactly what they eat. There is a very strong positive correlation between body fat percentage & under-reporting of food intake. It does not appear to be deliberate deceit (how could it be? They know that their true consumption is being measured), but self-deceit. It is speculated that they want to believe that something outside their control is causing their obesity, not their own actions.

As for the seat issue, perhaps there is a case for economy-class oversize seats. You get economy-class service, but a bigger seat, & pay a corresponding price: less than in a premium class, but more (in proportion to the extra space you use) than standard economy.

I know fat people. I’m sure most do. And I’m sure most overweight people regret being overweight. But, something can be done about it!

As I’ve argued here before, more exercise and better food in the right portions is all it takes. You can’t tell me that someone that exercises 1 hour a day, eats bran/oats and fruit for breaskfast, salad with no dressing for lunch and lean red meat/chicken with steamed vegetables for dinner is going to get fat?! No.

Relating this to the topic: I, like others, find it extremely uncomfortable if I have to sit next to an overweight person in economy and would find it very unnerving if I am behind them in a queue to get out of a single over wing exit with the plane on fire. Swerve is right, there are seats big enough for overweight people and this is the price they should pay if they can’t fit in a regular economy seat. In fact, it will be cheaper if they buy two economy seats which is the main argument here.

I believe this is a topic where the argument is going to be heavily weighted on one side of the see-saw 😉

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Alright lets avoid taking this on a personal level chaps. We don’t want unnecessary offence being endorsed here.

Stacks of funny jokey references to fat people here, like most places. Do you know anyone who is fat? Do you understand the feelings they have? Do you think of why they are fat? Or do you assume they are lazy? I can tell you it is no joke for them or their family. I can tell you in 80 percent of cases it is a medical problem and needs to be treated.

“some day a slightly overweight person, like the guy, will take it to the European court for human rights and win”

He will have to take the Eurostar or ferry to get there :D:D:D

It is not just the cost issue (although it is important) it is a safety issue. I know I dont want that guy in front of me in the aisle of a smoke filled aircraft.

To avoid discriminating people with a slightly higher bodyweight option 1 seems the best to me. Bigger seats for everybody, but also higher prices, because it would still be cheaper for those, that now are forced to buy 2 seats. So regardless of weight, skin colour or gender you would pay the same for an airline seat. And that will ne the outcome. It is happening more often and some day a slightly overweight person, like the guy, will take it to the European court for human rights and win.

or just make everyone sit on the floor…. as one of my colleagues experienced on a Hajj flight many years ago.

The man was not too fat, the seat was too small.

OK, let’s make all the seats big enough for him. Hmm. Now the plane has far fewer seats, therefore fewer passengers, & everyone has to pay more. Good idea?

Or maybe just fit a few seats big enough. They take much more space than other seats. Fair enough, charge more for them. But he’d already rejected that option, by booking a standard economy class seat.

No, he was rightly thrown off. He was demanding more than other passengers, but refusing to pay more. He was like a man ordering two meals in a restaurant & only wanting to pay for one, or ordering a large beer & trying to pay for a small one.

The man was not too fat, the seat was too small.

😀
bet the lardar5e tells people that he ‘doesnt eat much’ LOL 😀

Or “It’s my glands”!!!!

Rgds Cking

rolled off would do 😀

That will ruin your back. I forklift will do just fine.

A 203kg man who says he was thrown off a flight for being too fat has missed the chance to say goodbye to his dying aunt

What did they use to throw him off…………………….?

i know its appauling

rolled off would do 😀

Yeah, it’s called the shoreline, and his kind are usually found on the wetside of it. Greenpeace usually push them back over it if they find themselves on the wrong side of it though.

😀
bet the lardar5e tells people that he ‘doesnt eat much’ LOL 😀