Now Ryanair wants to ban ALL checked in baggage

I think what concerns me more is the general shift toward shand luggage, and in fairness it is seen across all the airlines, not just RYR/EZY. The number of times you get on any flight and find someone struggling with some whopping case trying to lift it into the overhead locker alarms me a lot. I may be making this next bit up and haven’t checked the AAIB report, but from memory I think they highlighted hand luggage as a killer in the Kegworth disaster and recommended limits on this. I would hate to be under one of those heavy bags in an accident if the locker came open (which they do).

Completely agree. People already make compromises when they fly FR.. such as travelling to airports distant from the city centre in many cases, yet the model seems to work successfully so I don’t think this would be a problem commercially. In terms of safety though, the encouragement of filling the cabin with weight unrestricted hand luggage is a step backward.. As well as what is noted in accident reports, from anecdotal evidence (ie forums and chatting to people) it seems that even in routine operations the event of overhead lockers opening seems to be fairly common during heavy landings and heavy turbulence for example..

Getting back into the area of commercial aviation I did a quick google search on Ryanair accounts

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/incomeStatement?stmtType=INC&perType=ANN&symbol=RYAAY.O

It’s interesting looking at their income statement both on an annual basis and an interim quarterly basis (click the appropriate tabs). What is clear that were it not for a very good quarter in 2008 their financial position would be a lot worse…

All these recent nonsensical ‘shenanigans’ from MO’L (toilets, luggage, standing/stools, etc )are simply publicity stunts.

Since the Republic of Ireland Financial Reporting systems/standards aren’t all the same as the UK’s it may be difficult to compare directly without seeing a full financial audit report, plus impartial comments from the IASB.

All I can say is that Deano in his post http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1436112#post1436112 correctly says that, putting bums in seats at ‘peanuts’ prices or ‘free’ is not indicative of good “cash flow”.
An organisation’s “Cash Flow” is the only yardstick for stability and not purely quarterly or end of year profits.

Profits are there on paper on one day and by the next day could see the organisation in heavy debt/overdraft since in reality it is up to it’s eyeballs in payments due to it’s debtors.

Profit declarations can be and often are ‘gloss’ to attract non discerning investors.

Getting back into the area of commercial aviation I did a quick google search on Ryanair accounts

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/incomeStatement?stmtType=INC&perType=ANN&symbol=RYAAY.O

It’s interesting looking at their income statement both on an annual basis and an interim quarterly basis (click the appropriate tabs). What is clear that were it not for a very good quarter in 2008 their financial position would be a lot worse…

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Ahem…. does the phrase “Commercial Aviation” ring bells with any of you?

Careful, now!

GA

Technically so do you Paul 😉

As, technically, do you, and every other primate although you’re possibly slightly more ape-like. 😀 :diablo:

Idiot!

OK…. you’re an idiot

Bar stewards! 😀

Paul

P.S. There’ll be a bit of a continuity issue now as I’ve deleted an earlier post of mine after messing around trying to quote it. Feel free to call me an idiot! 😮

OK…. you’re an idiot :diablo:

Feel free to call me an idiot! 😮

Idiot! 😀

Come on everyone, don’t miss your opportunity.

They have fur, they’re OK!

Technically so do you Paul 😉

All 737-800 front holds i have been in are always warm, not like smaller 737s where they are cold!

The holds are not heated and as such the conditions in them are not the same as inside the cabin, which is what you were implying, which is wrong.

Note both cargo holds are also heated by exhausting cabin air around their walls. The forward hold will maintain at least 40F and the aft hold at least 32F at a distance of 8 inches from the walls

Hmm… Well I was half right. The conditions in the hold still arn’t the same as in the cabin, which was my original point! 😀

Paul

P.S. There’ll be a bit of a continuity issue now as I’ve deleted an earlier post of mine after messing around trying to quote it. Feel free to call me an idiot! 😮

Don’t know about Ryanair’s but I know that some holds are heated, after all, how would animals be able to travel and survive?

They have fur, they’re OK!

Hmm… Fair point. OK, I stand partially corrected. 🙂

Paul

Don’t know about Ryanair’s but I know that some holds are heated, after all, how would animals be able to travel and survive?

You started it :p

Technically, the holds share the same air as the cabin…go figure.

I think you kind of did really! 😀

Anyway, let’s definitely stop now before Lance shouts at us!

Paul

Where is the cabin air recirculated from? 😉

Even so, it’s unprocessed so it still technically isn’t the same air. 😉

Paul

That’s a good idea !!!!
Maybe FR can create a “pressurisation” 10€ charge :dev2:

Technically, the holds share the same air as the cabin…go figure.

Not quite the same air. They share the same pressurisation being within the fuselage, but they’re not heated and don’t have air circulating through them like the cabin so technically it isn’t quite the same air. I wouldn’t wanna travel down there! 😀

Paul

How long before MOL suggests converting all his baggage holds into new seating sections – double decker 737’s anyone? 😉

I like the tongue in cheek in this one.
“Standby” takes on a whole new meaning – equating to “Seat in Hold”. – “Stowaway” travel mode.
Just an image of chairs strapped in to the baggage “hold” area, and passengers told to bring thermal clothing including underwear, to be eligible to fly in the ‘hold’.
Of course any passenger deaths while flying due to extreme cold will be the passenger’s own responsibility and relatives will have to bear all costs on their demise, no compensation from MOL’s airline.

As I said in the post about seats in place of toilets, watch the cash flow of the organisation – it maybe be already in the ‘toilet’/down the pan.

(My post of 15th June 2009, 17:53 http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91603 )

It may even be that he starts using re-furbished ‘crap’ from post demolition scrap.
(My post of 21st June 2009, 20:58 http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91809)

He is going to need a whole bunch of clover leaves to get himself out of the mess.

Who cares I never use RyanAir. LOL.

If people insist on flying with trash like FR then what do they expect? maybe the next idea for this appallingly tacky carrier will be to abolish plane seats to cram in even more passengers.

I have said it 100 times……Don’t fly with them! I never have and have not lost out on my travel plans as a result. Turn your backs on him and his “airline” and vote with yer bums! Put them on another airlines seats, there are plenty of other carriers our there;)

… I may be making this next bit up and haven’t checked the AAIB report, but from memory I think they highlighted hand luggage as a killer in the Kegworth disaster and recommended limits on this. ….

There are limits. They’re both too lax (if everyone took hand baggage up to the limit, I think they’d have to load some of it into the hold), & not enforced.