As expected BA plumped for Embraers….
BA orders 11 Embraer regional jets for CityFlyer
Nicholas Ionides (22Dec08, 07:15 GMT, 97 words)British Airways (BA) has ordered 11 Embraer regional jets for use by its BA CityFlyer subsidiary.
Embraer says in a statement that the deal comprises six E-170s and five E-190SRs on firm order, plus options for three more E-190SRs.
The first 76-seat E-170 is due for delivery in the second half of 2009. Deliveries of the larger, 98-seat E-190SRs will start later, says Embraer.
BA had been evaluating replacements for some time for its Avro RJ100s and RJ85s that are operated by its CityFlyer unit. The new Embraer aircraft will be operated out of London City Airport.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
By: steve rowell - 26th December 2008 at 22:00
Stretching it would make it an A319 surely ? :rolleyes:
Sharp as a tack as per usual Allen
By: Deano - 26th December 2008 at 09:05
It’s the older 146s with the air con issues, not the RJs
By: Arabella-Cox - 26th December 2008 at 08:27
Dan, it may be a bad news for the passenger point of view
I cannot imagine why replacing 146s with E-jet would be bad for the passengers in any way.
Doesn’t the air system in the 146 have a terrible reputation? In fact don’t they have a rather poor reputation for reliability in general?
And aren’t the E-jets incredibly comfortable from the passengers’ point of view?
Why would it be a bad thing to have no 146s left?
By: Mark L - 24th December 2008 at 14:31
An hour on the ground in Shannon easily outweighs:
a) A long car journey from Canary Wharf to Heathrow
b) Long Check in times and queues at Heathrow (15 minutes at LCY, 40 minutes at LHR)
c) A long wait for immigration at JFK
Each flight already has around 50% of its seats guaranteed by some of BA’s biggest clients, so it is profitable before it even starts.
By: rdc1000 - 23rd December 2008 at 10:55
Have some people on this forum been asleep for the last 18 months….
BA are launching an A318 service to JFK :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:dev2::diablo:
By: Ren Frew - 23rd December 2008 at 00:27
An A318 to New York would be stretching it.
Stretching it would make it an A319 surely ? :rolleyes:
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd December 2008 at 23:17
An A318 to New York would be stretching it.
If you take the longest range variant and then remove three quaters of the seats, and stop at Shannon on the outbound leg I think you will find it is quite possible. The people at BA aren’t idiots, I think they know what they’re doing. 😉
By: tommyinyork - 22nd December 2008 at 22:50
An A318 to New York would be stretching it.
By: Tartan Pics - 22nd December 2008 at 19:34
Surely the runway at LCY won’t allow for the 318 to get airbourne with such a large fuel load.
The Clever boffins at London Airways have thought(??)that out and are giving the busy businessmen in the ludicrously expensive seats a :)free:) stop off on the tarmac at Dublin en route to fuel up!! I’m sure the busy businessmen will really enjoy sitting around in Ireland and not be at all worried about the important meetings,time being money etc… and give LA their repeat business!…..NOT!
By: JetSet - 22nd December 2008 at 18:56
They have already ordered the A318 😉 But it’s not for cityflyer operations. It’s to run an all business class route LCY-JFK
Surely the runway at LCY won’t allow for the 318 to get airbourne with such a large fuel load.
By: keltic - 22nd December 2008 at 18:32
Dan, it may be a bad news for the passenger point of view but an Embraer it´s absolutely more cost effective compared to the old 146s. And business it´s first for airlines.
By: OneLeft - 22nd December 2008 at 11:11
I look forward to seeing them in BA colours.
1L.
By: rdc1000 - 22nd December 2008 at 10:06
Was expected, I doubt they could get the A318 out of LCY with 100 seats.
Actually, yes they could if they wanted. The A318 is likely to be used for European routes in the future, with around the 100 seat+ mark, I know at least one airline considering them, and not for particularly short routes either.
BA has long been expected to order the E-jets though.
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd December 2008 at 09:59
They have already ordered the A318 😉 But it’s not for cityflyer operations. It’s to run an all business class route LCY-JFK.
Personally, I think this is bad news. Flybe dumped the last of their 146s in october, now BA looks set to dump theirs by 2010, and doubtless CityJet (being Air France-KLM) will be updating their own fleet very soon. We’ll have none left!
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