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Swissair 146 Bumpy Landing

If one peruses LiveLeak and searches for the thread title, a short video of a very scary landing can be seen at London City Airport. Luckily, pilot recovered it.

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By: Newforest - 3rd March 2008 at 08:59

Wasn’t it in one of these aircraft that his Royal Highness made a pigs ear of landing in the Highlands a few years back??:)

A derogatory letter to the Prince about the incident, twelve years ago!:eek:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19950720/ai_n13995722

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By: wysiwyg - 28th February 2008 at 09:41

For steep approaches it allows extra drag so that the engines don’t sit at idle. This allows them a much faster spool up time for a go-around, etc.

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By: old shape - 28th February 2008 at 00:15

They are often used in the approach phase of flight.

Yep.
I checked with a “146 mender” pal of mine.

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By: wysiwyg - 27th February 2008 at 14:08

And…..
I’m almost certain that the rear fuse airbrakes are not supposed to be deployed until on the ground???
I’m having BAe peers answer the question.

They are often used in the approach phase of flight.

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By: steve rowell - 26th February 2008 at 23:16

I bet if there was an underwear shop in the terminal they’d have done a brisk trade

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By: Future Pilot - 25th February 2008 at 21:01

And…..
I’m almost certain that the rear fuse airbrakes are not supposed to be deployed until on the ground???

It’s quite a common thing actually :), seen it many a time myself on most if not all 146/RJ approaches.

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By: old shape - 25th February 2008 at 20:57

And…..
I’m almost certain that the rear fuse airbrakes are not supposed to be deployed until on the ground???
I’m having BAe peers answer the question.

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By: Manston Airport - 25th February 2008 at 16:17

Wonder if you got a saw bum after the landing :rolleyes: 😀 Am I right that the Swiss Bae 146 that did a heavy landing at LCY is now back up in the air now?

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By: FLY.BUY - 24th February 2008 at 19:29

Check this one out for a heavy landing!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bf_1174759079

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By: Charley B - 24th February 2008 at 09:53

Wasn’t it in one of these aircraft that his Royal Highness made a pigs ear of landing in the Highlands a few years back??:)

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By: FLY.BUY - 23rd February 2008 at 22:08

Jesus, I’ve flown a few Swissair flights into LCY as opposed to LHR purely for the fun and interesting approach into the city, would never in a million years expect anything as scary or as that exhilerating as that!. Why go to Alton towers when you can fly Swissair? In all seriousness they are a very good airline, never had any problems with them or the professionalism of their pilots. The AVRO 146, what a fantasic aircraft, long may it continue to serve.

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By: zoot horn rollo - 23rd February 2008 at 20:16

I presume that this wasn’t the one that came to grief at LCY recently?

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By: Bmused55 - 23rd February 2008 at 20:14

Still, after a (crash)landing like that Swiss in the video, you’ll need to given them a check over.

I’m told the Avros are pretty hardy aircraft and will take a beating.

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By: old shape - 23rd February 2008 at 19:59

Now theres an Avro that will need a good going over after disembarkation!

Holy moly.

When we were building the 146, the MoD “Borrowed” a couple to see if they were good enough for Queens Flight.
These two were taken to the edge of the envelope in every condition and direction.
They were handed back to BAe with a confirmation that the MoD would buy two for HM.
The ones they borrowed? Sold to Dan Air.

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By: old shape - 23rd February 2008 at 19:57

Thanks for posting the link.

Good job it was a 146, built like the proverbial brick “outhouse” :-). One of the strongest civil a/c constructions ever. The strongest was the BAC 1-11.
Not too sure about American / Russian designs, I’ve not seen the drawings of the older stuff. Modern Boeing stuff is optimised by CAD/CAM but they still prefer to stick to very established construction methods, which are also very cheap to produce. I would suggest that Airbus prefer breaking new ground into areas not honed for mass production. As an Engineering piece, they are stunning – almost artwork, to produce the bits is a PITA.

Modern design has the benefit of the mathematical ability of a PC, so the design is optimised perfectly for the stresses and loads expected. In the older days, adding 10% to your final calculations was a common method…resulting in a slightly heavier construction….but very strong. Not too strong, or it would actually be too stiff and would create its own problems.

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By: Bmused55 - 23rd February 2008 at 19:53

Now theres an Avro that will need a good going over after disembarkation!

Holy moly.

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By: Charley B - 23rd February 2008 at 18:41

Certainly wouldn’t have liked to have been on that flight!!
A roller coaster comes to mind!

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By: symon - 23rd February 2008 at 18:25

Kai Tak anyone! 😮

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By: wysiwyg - 23rd February 2008 at 14:51

What a shocker!!! …and in an aircraft that’s supposed to be as easy to land as it gets!

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