Just noticed that on all of the Silverjets 767s they have sealed up one of the two over wing emergency exits, these are all ex BY birds and it was one of the mods Boeing did to accommodate max passenger layouts on the -200s for Britannia.
I know Silverjet does a premium service but does anyone know what mods have had to take place to remove this or is it a simple case of just locking it shut and removing fixtures inside the cabin to disguise?.
Rgds
Andy
By: Cking - 10th November 2007 at 23:11
Just one post before yours, I posted all the possible combination of doors and exits available on the 767-200/300, didn’t you read it?
No
Rgds Cking
By: glhcarl - 10th November 2007 at 22:17
BTW some thing in the back of my mind is telling me that some 767-200 were built with only two over wing exits. Am I wrong????
Rgd Cking
Just one post before yours, I posted all the possible combination of doors and exits available on the 767-200/300, didn’t you read it?
By: wilag - 10th November 2007 at 20:47
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Engineers rather you don’t open them even in training, seals etc.
QUOTE]The overwing exits on a 767 are always armed ,un like the door type exits. If you open one without dis-arming it, will deploy the off wing escape slide and fire sqibs (small explosive charges) in the inbord two spoiler actuators to drive them into the stowed position. You will be popular! To dis-arm them requires panels to be removed, switches to be moved etc, etc. That is why engineers don’t want you to open them.
As for the silver jet I suspect that a combination of reduced passenger load and interior fit will be the reason why they have de-activated one hatch.
BTW some thing in the back of my mind is telling me that some 767-200 were built with only two over wing exits. Am I wrong????Rgd Cking
It was a customer option like the Easy A319s, I believe only Britannia and Braathens were the only airlines to have this mod fitted due to max passenger config i.e. 8 across seating.
By: Cking - 10th November 2007 at 18:37
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Engineers rather you don’t open them even in training, seals etc.
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The overwing exits on a 767 are always armed ,un like the door type exits. If you open one without dis-arming it, will deploy the off wing escape slide and fire sqibs (small explosive charges) in the inbord two spoiler actuators to drive them into the stowed position. You will be popular! To dis-arm them requires panels to be removed, switches to be moved etc, etc. That is why engineers don’t want you to open them.
As for the silver jet I suspect that a combination of reduced passenger load and interior fit will be the reason why they have de-activated one hatch.
BTW some thing in the back of my mind is telling me that some 767-200 were built with only two over wing exits. Am I wrong????
Rgd Cking
By: glhcarl - 10th November 2007 at 18:13
An extra exit doesn’t really fall within that particular strategy… :p
The number of passengers allowed is controled by the number and type of exit available:
767-200, max pax 255 with 2 pair Type A doors and 1 pair Type III doors.
767-200, max pax 290 with 2 pair Type A doors and 2 pair Type III doors.
767-300, max pax 290 with 2 pair Type A doors and 2 pair Type III doors.
767-300, max pax 290 with 3 pair Type A doors and 1 pair Type III doors.
767-300, max pax 351 with 3 pair Type A doors and 1 pair Type 1 doors.
767-300F, 2 crew + 4 persons, 1 floor lever exit and interia reels in flight station.
By: Mark L - 10th November 2007 at 00:01
If they’re carrying less passengers as is suggested.. why install an extra lavatory or galley??
Because an extra lavatory and galley supplement the onboard service and thus what makes up the main tangent of their marketing campaign.
An extra exit doesn’t really fall within that particular strategy… :p
By: FlyMonarch - 9th November 2007 at 23:41
i think its to do with thier service an product to offer, i believe they have Female Toilets onboard etc so maybe thats why they installed the extra, as for the galley im not to sure, maybe for extra stowage of carts depending on thier service etc
By: steve rowell - 9th November 2007 at 22:11
Has anyone checked to see whether they’ve changed the config and have something like a loo or galley in that area now which is the reason for the blanking?
If they’re carrying less passengers as is suggested.. why install an extra lavatory or galley??
By: atr42 - 9th November 2007 at 20:37
I’ve never worked the 767 so you might have to take this with a pinch of salt.
Basic regs are one exit per 50 pax. Therefore if they’ve reduced the overall numbers them the extra exits would be redundant.
If they were std type 3 over wing exits I can’t see why they would be closed up for maintenance reasons. Generally they aren’t touched except in planned maintenance. Engineers rather you don’t open them even in training, seals etc.
Has anyone checked to see whether they’ve changed the config and have something like a loo or galley in that area now which is the reason for the blanking?
By: Dxb Driver - 9th November 2007 at 06:19
If you have 100 pax on a 767-200, you do not need as many exit doors, that is a fact. Therefore sealing up the excess overwing doors, would be a maintenance saving. The UK CAA do oversee and approve such mods. Its the JAA in Europe by the way.
DXB Driver
By: steve rowell - 9th November 2007 at 02:56
It serves no purpose to seal over wing exits..i find it highly irregular and would have thought it was against FAA regulations or whatever the equivalent European body is
By: FlyMonarch - 8th November 2007 at 20:09
The over wing may have been sealed up due to it lighter loads i.e cabin lay out, no the 2 o/w exits not essensial!!
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