NCL capability Question.

NCl getting 2 LS 757s where this come from?? I heard it was just the one?

Nightsopping at NCL in the summer is (roughly:) )

7 x EZY 737-700
2 x LS 737-300 1 x Bae146 1 x 757
1 x AF CRJ
1 x KL f100/737
1 x BA a319/320
2 x TOM 757 1 x 737-800
2 x XLA 757 1 x 737-800
4 x T3 J41’s
2 x TCX 757
1 x FJE 757
2 x MYT a321

Think thats about right :confused:

Not just the one XLA757?

I think the point being made Lukey is that NCL will not have 30 aircraft overnight at any one point, unless in extreme circumstances. Lets not forget that some of the XLA/TOM/TCX/MYT/FJE flights will operate into the early hours of the morning, eliminating the need for some of these spaces too.

Arn’t they? I thought they were. Sorry then Duff gen.
Thats the trouble with the American carriers and chapter eleven. They are all either in it, out of it or about to go into it! You loose track
But I do know that the rumour of one of the older American carriers in chapter eleven operating into NCL stopped the proposed AA flight dead.
Sorry Continental:o But I still wouldnt fancy 7hrs in your 757’s!

Rgds Cking

The CO rumour was the reason why AA didn’t come. CO would have undercut any existing airlines because, being in chapter eleven, they don’t need to make a profit! So AA just didn’t bother. Just wait till CO either goes bust or come out of Chap 11. The fares will go up, the route will become un profitable and they will pull out. The MAN-JFK route is cheap because of that. Mind you, I wouldnt like to spend 7-8 hrs cooped up in a 757!

Rgds Cking

Tut tut tut, perhaps you might want to tell CO that they are in chapter 11.

Nightsopping at NCL in the summer is (roughly:) )

7 x EZY 737-700
2 x LS 737-300 1 x Bae146 1 x 757
1 x AF CRJ
1 x KL f100/737
1 x BA a319/320
2 x TOM 757 1 x 737-800
2 x XLA 757 1 x 737-800
4 x T3 J41’s
2 x TCX 757
1 x FJE 757
2 x MYT a321

Think thats about right :confused:

30’s quite a number of aircraft nightstopping, who are they all? Does NCL have enough stands for over 30 at night? If the Emirates is coming in and departing 90mins later at lunchtime, why would you need room for a 777 during the night?

NCL is having new stands built even then i dont think it will do much good is we get an aircraft go tech.

(Mind you, I wouldnt like to spend 7-8 hrs cooped up in a 757! )

But if you were a pop star, you might be travelling in a tiny exec jet.
Maybe its tough at the top.

An exec 757 is one thing, but 7hrs with the great un-washed is another!

Rgds Cking

Plus NCL is going to have upwards of 30 aircraft night stopping this summer possibley more when Jet2 decide what there going to base. Finding room for an 777 could be tricky.

30’s quite a number of aircraft nightstopping, who are they all? Does NCL have enough stands for over 30 at night? If the Emirates is coming in and departing 90mins later at lunchtime, why would you need room for a 777 during the night?

(Mind you, I wouldnt like to spend 7-8 hrs cooped up in a 757! )

But if you were a pop star, you might be travelling in a tiny exec jet.
Maybe its tough at the top.

Manston: EK is the first scheduled long haul newcastle has ever had. Rumor has it CO are interested.

The CO rumour was the reason why AA didn’t come. CO would have undercut any existing airlines because, being in chapter eleven, they don’t need to make a profit! So AA just didn’t bother. Just wait till CO either goes bust or come out of Chap 11. The fares will go up, the route will become un profitable and they will pull out. The MAN-JFK route is cheap because of that. Mind you, I wouldnt like to spend 7-8 hrs cooped up in a 757!

Rgds Cking

Lukey, Lukey, Lukey :rolleyes:
If 1210-1340 is peak morning times, then I’d hate to think what you’d call 6am-8am 😉

Manston: EK is the first scheduled long haul newcastle has ever had. Rumor has it CO are interested.

Ek gets an airbridge purely because its what they expect from any airport they fly into. They are a premier Airline and expect the best. Stand 9 is used as it is the most capable for a long Haul aircraft it can handle the A330 with ease. Stand Nine also has the biggest lounge at NCL.

Also NCL has only 3 bus’s for the entire airport and these are in high demand in the mornings in High Season which is when Ek will be operating there flight. Plus NCL is going to have upwards of 30 aircraft night stopping this summer possibley more when Jet2 decide what there going to base. Finding room for an 777 could be tricky.

as far as AF, KL and BA etc losing business I think they probably will. With AMS being a popular weekend break place, I wouldnt be surprised if LS started to dominate the route. As far as connections are concerned, to the East at least, I would rather fly from NCL-DXB then to wherever I am going that NCL to that godforsaken dump that is LHR, then connect somewhere else, then get to where I want to be.

I had been thinking the same about Amsterdam, LS I think take most of the business traffic aswell as the leisure traffic these days. KL (mainly because of pricing?) have lost business customers to Jet2, leaving KL feeding AMS from the airport.

EZY to a degree also feed CDG in a very similar way, leaving AF (Brit Air) to carry mostly connection customers. On the other hand, KL send 737’s now aswell as the F70/F100. AF use smaller birds these days, CRJ700’s? when they used to have Gill Air F100’s on the routes til 2001

Why won’t they?

Cos then all the pax would be sat on the a/c for 3 hours waiting for some buses. 🙂

Dont know who else will be using the Stand 9 airbridge, but EK had a big part to play in it being built. With it being a daily flight, they will certainly see the most usage of it.

there is flights to Orlando in summer.

Yeh, and Toronto and Puerto Plata as well.

Also, as far as AF, KL and BA etc losing business I think they probably will. With AMS being a popular weekend break place, I wouldnt be surprised if LS started to dominate the route. As far as connections are concerned, to the East at least, I would rather fly from NCL-DXB then to wherever I am going that NCL to that godforsaken dump that is LHR, then connect somewhere else, then get to where I want to be.

Yes, although there is flights to Orlando in summer.

Could them flights use the stand when EK not there?:confused: Thanks for info.

James

Is Emirates the only long haul airline into NCL?

James

The new airbridge is for Emirates, (Or so the plans on my dads office table say 🙂 )

Why won’t they?

Do you have any evidence that the airbridge on 9 was built specifically for them? Emirates was a major coup for NCL, particuarly after AA suspended JFK services before they even began but I don’t see how or why they would potentially need to bend over so far backwards to please them.

IMO, and i could be very very very wrong here, but I don’t see the pax uplift being as strong as NCL or most of the enthusiasts on places like here would like to think. Sure both the airport and the airline will have done their homework on this but I do think most of the Emirates traffic will be generated at the cost of AF, BA and KL – all of whom feed their CDG, LHR and AMS hubs with feeder flights from NCL for worldwide connections.

Your thoughts…?

EK wont go remote simple as. Stand 9s airbridge was built for them.

Yeh, S3 is BA, 15 is often Thomsonfly etc, and can handle 763’s, not sure if anything else can fit though, and S9.

I think I read somewhere that Stand 9, the one mostly used for the A330s NCL gets in the summer can accomodate larger a/c such as the 777 but it needs to be extended towards Gate 10, reducing the a/c size limit for that gate.
Cant see EK wanting to wait God knows how long before steps arrive, then buses.