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That was in last months Airliner World about PIK trans-atlantic flights. Sorry to go off topic 😀

James

You assume I read that then ? 😀 😎

so flights went Glasgow then to Prestwick then to Orlando :rolleyes:

Yes they did, for much the same political reasons that Aer Lingus operated via Shannon.

I’d still like to know if an early 1990’s 752 was technically/legally capable of flying direct from GLA to SFB without following the UK/Iceland/Greenland/Nova Scotia/eastern seaboard method, and indeed if there are any differences to that route by 752 nowadays ?

Funnily enough it was Air 2000 way back in the day who pioneered 757 hops from GLA using Prestwick for political reasons and Bangor (I think?) for fuel stop reasons… The farce of stopping 33 miles away at PIK to satisfy the airport’s US gateway status was soon halted and GLA became Scotlands main US gateway airport.

That was in last months Airliner World about PIK trans-atlantic flights. Sorry to go off topic 😀

James

Not to mention, 707s, VC-10’s, DC8s Constellations, Electras… The Spirit of St Louis !!!

I think what I’m getting at is that widebody trans-atlantic travel is still a relatively new thing in the grand scheme of things, but I think most people expect the perceived extra comfort that wide body aircraft bring. So travelling in a single aisler, such as a 757 is perhaps seen as a retrograde step, especially when the trip entails a fuel stop.

Funnily enough it was Air 2000 way back in the day who pioneered 757 hops from GLA using Prestwick for political reasons and Bangor (I think?) for fuel stop reasons… The farce of stopping 33 miles away at PIK to satisfy the airport’s US gateway status was soon halted and GLA became Scotlands main US gateway airport.

so flights went Glasgow then to Prestwick then to Orlando :rolleyes:

Guys as far as I was aware the 757 had more than enough range to be able to complete a UK – SFB route???

Are we talking optimal payload here, and are/where there ETOPS certification and range issues to be consider ? Especially back in the late 80’s and early 90’s when UK based 752’s started trying these routes out with the pre “ER” equipment ?

Operating the 757 UK-SFB can be done non-stop.

I remember Air Scandic operated a Finnair 757 non-stop BFS-SFB a couple of years ago in a 228Y config, the flights were advertised as a direct routing via Bangor, but on most days was able to operate non-stop. It can be hit and miss.

However with Finnair 757’s now having Winglets I would say they could operate non-stop from any UK airport to SFB with the extra range they give.

Brgds

Richard

757’s

Guys as far as I was aware the 757 had more than enough range to be able to complete a UK – SFB route???

The first batch of UK regional airport charters to Orlando were performed by Monarch, Air Europe and I beleive Air 2000 757s back in 1990. All with tech-stops, and aboslutely in keeping with aircraft stopping off en-route when conditions dictate this must happen (those of an earlier vintage may remember the likes of 727s playing the transatlantic!)

Yeah I flew to Florida back in 97 with Flying Colours on a 757 stopping off at Bangor… Not something I want to do again 🙂

The first batch of UK regional airport charters to Orlando were performed by Monarch, Air Europe and I beleive Air 2000 757s back in 1990. All with tech-stops, and aboslutely in keeping with aircraft stopping off en-route when conditions dictate this must happen (those of an earlier vintage may remember the likes of 727s playing the transatlantic!)

Not to mention, 707s, VC-10’s, DC8s Constellations, Electras… The Spirit of St Louis !!!

I think what I’m getting at is that widebody trans-atlantic travel is still a relatively new thing in the grand scheme of things, but I think most people expect the perceived extra comfort that wide body aircraft bring. So travelling in a single aisler, such as a 757 is perhaps seen as a retrograde step, especially when the trip entails a fuel stop.

Funnily enough it was Air 2000 way back in the day who pioneered 757 hops from GLA using Prestwick for political reasons and Bangor (I think?) for fuel stop reasons… The farce of stopping 33 miles away at PIK to satisfy the airport’s US gateway status was soon halted and GLA became Scotlands main US gateway airport.

Just a shame there operating a 757 to Florida, I can tell you that’s not a nice route for a 757! 🙁

The first batch of UK regional airport charters to Orlando were performed by Monarch, Air Europe and I beleive Air 2000 757s back in 1990. All with tech-stops, and aboslutely in keeping with aircraft stopping off en-route when conditions dictate this must happen (those of an earlier vintage may remember the likes of 727s playing the transatlantic!)

When the crew went to collect MSJF they were meant to depart KBFI on the monday, but, for whatever reason, they never left till friday.

Crew always go to Boeing in advance of the scheduled delivery date to carry out customer acceptance flights.

Stuck?, why?

When the crew went to collect MSJF they were meant to depart KBFI on the monday, but, for whatever reason, they never left till friday.

Yesterday’s routed via BGR then down to SFB, 6hours to Bangor then another 3 to SFB but the return flight went non-stop to Glasgow in just under 8 hours.
The 737 is on today’s Glasgow – Lanzarote flight.

Just a shame there operating a 757 to Florida, I can tell you that’s not a nice route for a 757! 🙁

I’m not sure the colourscheme suits the 757 to be honest, not keen at the mo, but will probably grow on me!

I think it does and the G’s will be applied soon. I hope this is a positive sign that GSM are getting their act together regarding long haul services and perhaps that they may have found the ideal type for their north atlantic routes ?

I’m not sure the colourscheme suits the 757 to be honest, not keen at the mo, but will probably grow on me!

Here we go guys…

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5942938

Shame theres no Gs on the tail 😮 Looks pretty nice though!

The flight is no longer showing on flyte. So i presume it has been put off until tomorrow.

Gaz

The -700 was brought over by gsm crew who were stuck in Seattle for 8 days i believe.

Stuck?, why?

G-CEJM still in KEF 20:00

Thank you Scotty and Anderw for that information.:D

James