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MAN TO HUX – REFUEL??

MAN TO HUX

I have booked to go to HUX (Huatulco) from MAN with First Choice, i have done a little reearch and found its a B767 –

However while booking we was told we would have to stop at Orlando Stanford to re-fuel on the outbound only. We will be unable to leave the aircraft as it will be re-fueling only. ground time is 1 hour.

i have just been looking and it “appears” that if you tried to book the same trip from Gatwick to HUX you dont get the message regarding a fuel stop?? (i may be wrong, they may have to also??)

I am lead to beleive this aircraft, (B767 in fleet) does Cancun ok without a stop…

As my knowledge is not great on this subject.. still learning, how many miles is the flight path to HUX from MAN?

Out of intrest anyone know how far MAN to Cancun is??

What is the range of a B767?

Also the flight does NOT need to re-fuel on the return leg of the trip, i guess this will be due to refuelling at Orlando proir to arrivng, and then a top up of fuel in HUX, and the help of the West to east tail wind??

many thanks for reading.

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By: Rickt - 19th January 2007 at 18:03

9 hours! just goes to show….

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By: BigVince76 - 19th January 2007 at 00:29

It took over 9 hours for my BA767 to battle its way from LHR to EWR the other week! PHl to DUB on the way back was only 5 hours 20 minutes though.

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By: Rickt - 14th January 2007 at 02:48

hey Flex 35… cheers for the info…

T-5,,, thanks for the link…

David2386 – some good info there mate, i guess a 12 hour flight in a B767 is not too bad on fuel to empty fuel… i know due to safety etc… its a shame its not just direct..

Cheers to all how and read and posted.

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By: T5 - 14th January 2007 at 02:22

also… just out of intrest,…. where did you find the mileage?? i would love to have a link to the site or info..

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http://www.airportcitycodes.com/ has a time and distance calculator (in miles and kilometres).

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By: David2386 - 14th January 2007 at 00:55

MAN-SFB flights going out via MIMKU and SUNOT aren’t too uncommon, but the past few days the westbounds tracks have started as far north as ATSIX and even RATSU (60 and 61 degrees North).

During the early part of the week, 744s were managing JFK-LHR in 5hrs 10. Atlas were doing Charleston(South Carolina) to Prestwick is less than 6hours, a 3400nm trip, and winds over Glasgow yesterday at FL300 were 175kts! Of course it’s all down to domestic flights ruining the world with them making up 99% of CO2 emissions, BAH!

At almost 5000nm, it’d be well into 11 hours with light winds. Already approaching the limit, especially if full.

Incidentally, two old plans I have for FCA71 HUX-MAN show it one day as 9hours 40mins coming back and another week as 10hrs 40mins.

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By: Rickt - 14th January 2007 at 00:01

i would say strange… time = money?? quicker the better?

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By: Flex 35 - 13th January 2007 at 23:53

Hey Rick,

From MAN-HUX you’re looking at a track mileage of around 5100 nm, dependant on the oceanic clearance given by ATC. As Sam says westbound Atlantic traffic have been heavily affected by the winds across the Atlantic as of late, thus westbound flights have been making a lot of fuel stops recently, thus why you will be doing the same. Flight have also have been tracking a lot further north recently, towards Greenland.

The oceanic clearance is almost impossible to predict for an individual flight (it depends on the flow and also on the winds), however I have got for you today’s MyTravel routing between MAN-SFB on a 763. I hope that is ok for you.


MYT053
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B763 (Boeing Company Model 767-300)
Equipment Code /Q (/R with Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum)
(EGCC) MANCHESTER
(SFB) ORLANDO SANFORD INTN’L
EGCC WAL 1R WAL UL10 MIMKU UN563 ELPIN UN550 SUNOT DCT 5800N/02000W DCT 5900N/03000W DCT 5900N/04000W DCT 5700N/05000W DCT LOACH DCT FOXXE N264A TAFFY DCT EMJAY J174 ORF J121 CHS J79 OMN CORLL1 KSFB/0939
Speed 0466
Alt 32,000

Image at bottom, missing some of the points off, but the routing displayed is roughly what was flown on the flight plan that is above.

Any more help just ask.

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By: Rickt - 13th January 2007 at 23:47

i would say strange… time = money?? quicker the better?

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By: RingwaySam - 13th January 2007 at 23:43

Yep, although they seem to have calmed down abit now. I know a lot of the stuff like AA, DL, US have all been going up North and then out over the Atlantic instead of going over Ireland etc recently.

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By: Rickt - 13th January 2007 at 23:17

1 hour….. thats good… so i bet with some longer routes they could get about 20% reduction on time…

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By: RingwaySam - 13th January 2007 at 21:10

Cheers Sam, however would this also affect LGW would’t it??

Yes, it would effect most of the stuff going west over the Atlantic. Just to give you and idea of how strong the winds have been, Continental 75s from Newark to Manchester have been arriving around 1hr early!

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By: aidoair - 13th January 2007 at 20:48

I know that First choice 767’s dont have the usual full charter seating config now but i think that the 767-300 can fly around 11 hours 30 mins with a 328 seat configuration (weather permitting) would thuis be right?

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By: Rickt - 13th January 2007 at 20:05

also… just out of intrest,…. where did you find the mileage?? i would love to have a link to the site or info..

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By: Rickt - 13th January 2007 at 20:03

i know a little off topic.. but in regards to the beaches… there meant to be great… from all the reviews etc i have done proir to booking… i guss it depends where you stay…

heres a few photos of the resort im saying at.. (all photos from users via Trip advisor..

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviewImages-g150789-d152279-rb0-Gala_Beach_Resort_Huatulco-Huatulco_Pacific_Coast.html

Thanks for the distance figures..

Also just been looking on the Boeing website and as per there figures the aircraft is in range of HUX… ish…. i guess they have to make certain in case of delay etc..

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By: MyTravel UK - 13th January 2007 at 19:48

The flight is shy of 13 hours, with a distance of 5516 Miles; 666 more then CUN.

I’m not quite sure what to make of it as a destination, I read somewhere it’s like the Costa Del Sol but 10 hours further away and that the beaches aren’t clean.

When are you travelling?

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By: Rickt - 13th January 2007 at 19:24

Cheers Sam, however would this also affect LGW would’t it??

any thoughts on any of the other questions..

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By: RingwaySam - 13th January 2007 at 19:12

Theres been very heavy headwinds over the Atlantic recently so that’ll be why.

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