November 12, 2006 at 12:17 am
Guys,
Just been watching the 20 or so Air crash investigations i have recorded over the last few months.. and came across one i had not seen…
Air Transat, Flight 326 – A330 – Canada to Lisbon, Fuel leak.. 250KM glide
Im sure most of you have seen or heard about this one, however it just goes to show that these planes will glide perfectly well if in the right hands…
(i know theres the next issue… it should not of occured due to the dessions the pilot and co made.. but i will let you fight that one out)
Rickt
By: CROSSFIRE - 14th November 2006 at 22:36
they say it has something underneath it to help it glide?
Yes it is called air. :diablo:
By: wysiwyg - 14th November 2006 at 15:40
No the RAT deployment is not instantaneous and the I can absolutely positively guarantee you that the A340 does have mechanical backup. I have flown the aircraft in mechanical backup in the simulator on more than one occasion.
By: Cking - 14th November 2006 at 10:50
The RAT deployment and spin up is so fast in can be considered instananous. I havn’t go the A330 figures to hand but I was told that the Tristar RAT deployed in 1/11th of a second!
The A330/340 has no mechanical backup what so ever. All it’s backup systems require electrical and hydraulic power from somewere. If you have lost both engines, the APU and the RAT the aircraft is uncontollable.
Rgds Cking
By: wysiwyg - 13th November 2006 at 21:06
Yes your argument is technically correct (although the transfer to RAT power is far from instantanous) but the point I’m trying to make is that like any conventional airliner the loss of all engine driven and APU driven generators does not stop a FBW aircraft functioning. The fact still remains though that if a modern Airbus lost RAT power as well it can still be flown in mechanical backup.
By: Cking - 13th November 2006 at 00:39
It also nicely dispels the myth that an Airbus can’t fly with unpowered flight control computers (in fact it just becomes a conventional aircraft). Also nicely shows that despite being fly by wire the aircraft is inherently stable unlike most military applications on FBW.
The RAT, when deployed powers the green hydraulic system. The green hyd system powers a Hydraulic motor driven generator. The HMG provides electrical power to various systems, the flight control system being one of them. Therefore the flight control computers were powered, without power to them the pilot would not have been able to move the flying control surfaces.
Rgds Cking
By: Robert Hamilton - 13th November 2006 at 00:03
i have that film here on video, its a really good film, so indepth and realistic!
By: adamdowley - 12th November 2006 at 15:56
What about the 767 a few years back that ran out of fuel and landed on a disused airstrip. I think it was in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
another great example of airmanship and skill from the pilots.
By: wawkrk - 12th November 2006 at 15:50
What about the 767 a few years back that ran out of fuel and landed on a disused airstrip. I think it was in the USA.
By: adamdowley - 12th November 2006 at 12:31
I thought they were RAMs :confused:
No, they are ‘RATs’ – Ram Air Turbines. 🙂
By: wozza - 12th November 2006 at 12:28
All modern commercial passenger aircraft have a ‘RAT’
I thought they were RAMs :confused:
By: adamdowley - 12th November 2006 at 12:12
All modern commercial passenger aircraft have a ‘RAT’
By: David2386 - 12th November 2006 at 11:58
Only think the A330 can do it im sure on the programme they say it has something underneath it to help it glide?
James
The RAM Air Turbine, not so much to help it glide but provide some power and allow control.
By: Manston Airport - 12th November 2006 at 11:38
I remember watching that one back in late 05 i think. It really surprised me because i genuinely didnt think a/c were capable of something like that
Only think the A330 can do it im sure on the programme they say it has something underneath it to help it glide?
James
By: wysiwyg - 12th November 2006 at 09:40
It also nicely dispels the myth that an Airbus can’t fly with unpowered flight control computers (in fact it just becomes a conventional aircraft). Also nicely shows that despite being fly by wire the aircraft is inherently stable unlike most military applications on FBW.
By: Airline owner - 12th November 2006 at 09:22
I remember watching that one back in late 05 i think. It really surprised me because i genuinely didnt think a/c were capable of something like that