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Air Traffic Control Question

Hello,
Does anyone know about the flights over Russia/China having to have positions reports as if they were in a Oceanic area is this true and if so which areas do it?
I got thinking after this video i seen….its a Alitalia MD-11 flying to Honk Kong and while over Russia/China, what I can make out it sounds like they are doing position reports, any infomation on this would be great.

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By: wysiwyg - 24th July 2006 at 09:19

I’ve done it about 9 or 10 times since it started. It’s too long a trip for my liking (9 days).

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By: steve rowell - 24th July 2006 at 05:45

I have just landed 5 hours ago from a 12 hour return from Tokyo so I’m probably fairly well qualified to nswer your question! My flight involved approximately 8 hours in Russian airspace, all of which these days is conducted via VHF communication. Most of the western parts of Russia (and the first few hundred miles past Vladivostok heading westbound) are conducted with radar coverage however the middle part is still largely procedural with position reporting conducted in the same way as you would if you were non-CPDLC mid atlantic on HF or in Africa.

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By: wysiwyg - 22nd July 2006 at 08:33

…and the reg was G-VSHY.

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By: Bhoy - 20th July 2006 at 22:27

As wys is VS 340 flight crew, I very much doubt he was on BA8… 😉

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By: vrocking - 20th July 2006 at 21:37

Thanks for the info, was it VS901 or BA8 you were on and what was your aircraft reg?

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By: wysiwyg - 20th July 2006 at 20:57

I have just landed 5 hours ago from a 12 hour return from Tokyo so I’m probably fairly well qualified to nswer your question! My flight involved approximately 8 hours in Russian airspace, all of which these days is conducted via VHF communication. Most of the western parts of Russia (and the first few hundred miles past Vladivostok heading westbound) are conducted with radar coverage however the middle part is still largely procedural with position reporting conducted in the same way as you would if you were non-CPDLC mid atlantic on HF or in Africa.

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By: Gonzo - 20th July 2006 at 19:47

I’m no expert on ATC in those countries, but I’d imagine there are vast swathes of airspace that have no radar or VHF cover, so are treated exactly the same as oceanic airspace; position reports via HF.

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