Favourite unreal propliner

I knew the type served with both the RAF and the Luftwaffe during WW2, but I didn’t know it was originally designed as a torpedo bomber.

Thanks for that, Peter. 😀

You’re right. I found some information on a sub-version, the T.VIIII-W/M. Twelve were ordered for the Dutch East Indies (present day Indonesia). Only nine where delivered though when the war started. The other 3 where completed for the Luftwaffe.

BTW, the planes where not designed as bombers but as torpedo planes. But due to the lack of torpedos when the war started the planes where used as bombers. After the war finished for the Netherlands a few planes where flown over to the UK where they continued the war with RAF 320 (Dutch) sqn. But due to a lack of spares they where replaced by Lockheed Hudsons late 1940.

Some planes had fallen into German hands, and they used them till 1943. The planes still on the production lines (20odd of varying versions including a few intended for Finland) where completed for the Luftwaffe as well.

Herewith ended the history lesson. Class dismissed! 😀

No, only the forward fuselage, pontoons and part of the wings where metal. The rear fuselage was a wooden frame with linnen and the mid fuselage was wood.

Hmmmm…. it seems that Fokker might beg to differ. :confused:

Have a look at the final sentence in the 11th paragraph on the above link and see what you think – maybe I’m not reading it correctly.

Wasn’t the T9 bomber (which pre-dated the F.24) the first all-metal Fokker?

No, only the forward fuselage, pontoons and part of the wings where metal. The rear fuselage was a wooden frame with linnen and the mid fuselage was wood.

Does the original Embraer 50 seater count, it was originally conceived as a prop?

Lockheed Constitution

Lockheed Constitution probably fits the company of Convair 37, Bristol Brabazon and Sud-Est Armagnac… only prototypes flew.

Republic Rainbow? Intended commercial version of the XF-12 recce job (lost to the Northrop F-15 Reporter, if memory serves)

http://www.air-and-space.com/Republic%20XF-12.htm

As for unreal propliners, how about the Fokker F.24. A lookalike of the DC-5 this would have been the first all metal Fokker.

Wasn’t the T9 bomber (which pre-dated the F.24) the first all-metal Fokker?

Ah! The Douglas DC-5 actually went into production (all of a dozen were built), so I’d imagine it’s too real to be an “unreal propliner”.

Are we supposed to call it the Boeing DC-5 these days? :confused:

None survive, so at best you can call it a pepsi can. Although after all this time I would doubt even that.

The DC-5 looked a bit like a cross between a F27 and a DC-3. The F27 layout with DC-3 cockpit and wing. Not sure why the DC-5 was ever build, it was not much larger then the DC-3. The only advantage it had over the DC-3 was a level floor, whereas the DC-3s floor slopes upward when on the ground.

Only 4 planes where delivered to airlines, 2 for KLM’s carribean branch and 2 for KLM’s indonesian branch. The others where all drafted by the USAAF.

As for unreal propliners, how about the Fokker F.24. A lookalike of the DC-5 this would have been the first all metal Fokker. But world war 2 stopped the project. After the war the project was picked up again and rehashed, ending up with the F.27.

Other unreal propliner include the dornier 428, a stretched ‘328.

Ah! The Douglas DC-5 actually went into production (all of a dozen were built), so I’d imagine it’s too real to be an “unreal propliner”.

Are we supposed to call it the Boeing DC-5 these days? :confused:

Which unreal propliner would you rather fly?

Convair Model 37,
Bristol Brabazon
or Sud-Est Armagnac?

Nah, those lot were no problem… :rolleyes: What I’m still waiting for is a ride on a DC-5 – anyone know where I can arrange one? 😎

Andy

You know, I think you might be right at that! :rolleyes:

Which unreal propliner would you rather fly?

Convair Model 37,
Bristol Brabazon
or Sud-Est Armagnac?

Someone has stumbled across www.unrealaircraft.com! :rolleyes:

What’s “unreal” about the Brabazon and the Armagnac? :confused:

Neither of them ever had an order fulfilled.

But yes, both had some frames completed… Brabazon had test flights, but no Entry into Service, Armagnac was refused by Air France, but did see second-line service. What were they like?

Also, what were the principal differences between Convair XC-99 (which did fly) and Model 37? One was nominally a military transporter and the other a civilian plane, but were there supposed to be any real differences?

What’s “unreal” about the Brabazon and the Armagnac? :confused: