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Whilst talking to my Manx girlfriend in bed (ok ok calm down 😀 ) we started talking about how the civil aircraft registry markings (G-SPIT etc) were arranged. It came up in conversation that none of the Manx Airways jets (BAe 146’s) are registered in the UK under G- prefix codes. Of all things they are registered in Russia, Germany and the Czech Republic. I was wondering if any of you knew why Manx Airways didn’t register their jets in the UK (or Ireland) as as far as they know they only operate to the Republic of Ireland or the United Kingdom?

Over to you guys…

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By: EGNM - 24th February 2006 at 18:10

Yes we are talking over last christmas. So they must be Euromanx then.

Thank you for your time. You see i’m much more of a military buff myself- thats how I identified the RJ70s’ as BAe 146s’.

So in layman’s terms the aircraft are operating under a different livery to the carrier that owns them? So theyre effectively rented?

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Yea that is the basic theory. Most aircraft flying aroudn the Uk are leased (rented) from Multinational leasing companies, or from other operators. Some may ring a bell… GECAS, ILFC, Debis Air Finance?

Leasing is a wierd buisness is far too complex to explain on here!

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By: Michael_Mcr - 24th February 2006 at 11:36

Whilst talking to my Manx girlfriend in bed (ok ok calm down 😀 ) we started talking about how the civil aircraft registry markings (G-SPIT etc) were arranged…….
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WHAT ??? – I’ve heard of some strange and depraved bedroom activities in my time, but this takes fetishism to new depths…. 🙂

Have you no shame ??? 🙂

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By: Barnowl - 24th February 2006 at 02:49

Yes we are talking over last christmas. So they must be Euromanx then.

Thank you for your time. You see i’m much more of a military buff myself- thats how I identified the RJ70s’ as BAe 146s’.

So in layman’s terms the aircraft are operating under a different livery to the carrier that owns them? So theyre effectively rented?

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By: EGNM - 24th February 2006 at 02:07

EGMN- thak you for that prompt and comprehensive reply.

The aircraft I have seen all bear a red tail with the three legs of man on them. I do not know whether these examples are Euromanx or simply Manx Airways, however the only aircraft I have seen in Ronaldsway in these markings are BAe 146’s.

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If we are talking recently (which I presume we are) then this will be Euromanx, rather than Manx Airlines whose name and colours dissapeared in the early 2000s.

Belwo are linkts to pictures of both carriers 146 aircraft. (Euromanx actually operate Avro RJ70s which is a newer version of the BAe 146 family).

Manx Airlines final Livery – http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0602300/L/

Euromanx Current Livery – http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0870096/L/

You won’t be seeing the 146s around any more as they have been returned to their lessor at EXT, with the Do328s to follow to SCN. The present operating fleet is the Dash 8 series airframes, supplimented by 1x full time Emerald ATP, and either a second Emerald ATP or Atlantic ATR42/72 as required.

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By: Barnowl - 24th February 2006 at 01:15

EGMN- thak you for that prompt and comprehensive reply.

The aircraft I have seen all bear a red tail with the three legs of man on them. I do not know whether these examples are Euromanx or simply Manx Airways, however the only aircraft I have seen in Ronaldsway in these markings are BAe 146’s.

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By: EGNM - 24th February 2006 at 00:26

Whilst talking to my Manx girlfriend in bed (ok ok calm down 😀 ) we started talking about how the civil aircraft registry markings (G-SPIT etc) were arranged. It came up in conversation that none of the Manx Airways jets (BAe 146’s) are registered in the UK under G- prefix codes. Of all things they are registered in Russia, Germany and the Czech Republic. I was wondering if any of you knew why Manx Airways didn’t register their jets in the UK (or Ireland) as as far as they know they only operate to the Republic of Ireland or the United Kingdom?

Over to you guys…

BARNOWL

The original Manx Airlines aircraft (post BA Citiexpress intigration) were all G- registered – G-MIMA, G-OJET, G-MAJA, G-OATP, G-MAUD, plus may of the G-MAN* series spring to mind… a mix, incidentally, of British built types – 146s, Jetstream 41s and ATPs.

Now if you mean Euromanx, that is a differant story…

Dornier 328 series – Registered in Germany under D- Markings. D-CMTM/CPRW
Dash 8 aircraft (-200 and -300 series) are registered in Austrian OE- Markings. OE-HBB/HBC
Avro RJ70 aircraft were registered under Irish EI- markings. EI-CPJ/K

Euromanx, as such, is not the operator of the aircraft, merely a ticking agent. The aircraft are operated, for what I understand, by Euromanx GMBH, a seperate Austrian/German company who run the aircraft off another Airlines Austrian AOC (Airline Operating Certificate) – all very confusing.

The Avro RJ series aircraft I believe were retained in Irish markings as they were leased from an Irish company, and thus registered under the state of ownership, rather than operation (as can be displayed with many Italian carriers).

I believe this is the overview, however somebody else may be able to clarify a little better.

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