January 29, 2003 at 1:49 pm
Seeing as we don’t often see to many pics of the day these days, I felt I would post one for the second consecutive day (aren’t I greedy?). This is a Singapore Airlines 777-200 aircraft touching down at Adelaide last April…
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By: EGNM - 30th January 2003 at 11:06
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🙁 – i’m gonna go away and cry
By: KabirT - 30th January 2003 at 07:35
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That An 22 pic landing on the front gear is so cool…these workhorses are so bloody rough! :9 ….. yea i distributed your video and theres no darn thing you can do about it! :9
By: Ren Frew - 30th January 2003 at 00:11
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I’ve got everything the Tap did on video all the way to 11. I just hope they’d cleared the drinks up on that Twin Otter before final approach !
By: EGNM - 29th January 2003 at 23:22
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very interesting last post on HK – Kab u distributing MY A321 VID!!! -LOL – anyone who wants it just add me on msn – bradfords_own_itfc_fan@hotmail.com!
By: monster500 - 29th January 2003 at 22:58
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here is the famous curved IGS approach at Kai Tak!
also this was sent to me a number of years back by a college.
Approaching from over the South China Sea, set your NAV1 radio to Cheung Chau VOR (CH VOR, 112.30) or Tathong Point (TH VOR, 115.50) to the east of it if you can’t pick up CH VOR immediately. When approaching 100 DME (miles from) CH VOR descend to FL 150 (15000 ft). When passing 30 DME CH reduce your speed to 250 knots and descend to 8000 ft. After passing CH VOR fly on heading 270 or R-270 at 6000 ft. Tune your ADF to 268 SL (SHA LO WAN) and proceed to GOLF, which is at D7 CH on the 270 CH VOR radial (7 miles west of Cheung Chau) and should show as such on your NAV1 DME readout. Your cross check is that the ADF arrow should now point due north (90° to your right). Descend to 4500 ft, turning right heading 045 to pass over the 268 SL NDB (nondirectional radio beacon). Now tune your NAV1 to intercept the Kai Tak IGS localiser (IGS/DME 111.90 KL – note also that the ILS/DME is 109.90 IHK but use the IGS). Establish your 088 course on the IGS localiser, follow the glide path and reduce to normal approach speed for landing on R13 (which varies according to your aircraft – see specific documentation with each model). Final approach is visual and is the infamous bit. Turn right 47° towards runway (which lies 135°) at the moment of intercepting MM (the audible Middle Marker alarm and panel light – big jets such as the B747 and A340 must turn 2-3 seconds before MM). If using autopilot APR mode (auto-descent on the glide slope) remember to switch off the autopilot before turning otherwise you’ll suffer “Loss Of Terrain CLR”, for which read that you’ll modify Kowloon Tsai extensively by remaining on the IGS. Use the checkerboard to aid your visual approach – if you can’t see it, either you’re in Schenzen or you should go round again. If landing at night, you’ll find the curved approach lights useful as well as pretty. Flare the ship for landing. Kill throttles, take the threshold at no less than 50 ft. if you don’t want to give the barman in the Aero Club a haircut. If you feel a gentle bump and hear the wheels touch, feel pleased with yourself. If your screen goes AWOL and your computer makes a noise like an epileptic goat in a biscuit tin, you blew it. Take up fishing, since you’re in the water anyway.
Things to watch out for: very large lumps of terrain, Hong Kong viz, wind-shear and turbulence, birds, lack of ATC (you’re on your own) and, of course, the runway. Things to do on the way down: extend flaps, sllooowww the ship but don’t stall her, lower landing gear (important, that one), set autobrake and arm spoilers (as available, otherwise prepare to work hard on arrival as you’ve no co-pilot) and work out how to engage reverse thrust on touchdown (it’s the F2 key, folks … not applicable to ‘Betsy’ and friends …). All this is handy if you don’t want to take a bath, particularly in the larger jets.
After landing, take the high speed taxiway A11 (up to 60 knots) back to the Terminal and that wonderful Airport Bar. Don’t forget to savour the aroma of The Fragrant Harbour …
Missed Approach R13:
Providing you’re not wedged in Lion Rock, are still airborne and heading around 135, establish and continue on the R31 IGS localiser, climbing to 4500 ft; at MM, turn right to intercept inbound traffic on TH VOR (115.50) R-315 and join the TH VOR holding pattern. Wipe brow, change trousers and go round again, more carefully this time.
Mark “Have altitude, not attitude” Beaumont, July 2000
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By: monster500 - 29th January 2003 at 22:43
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Here is the MACDADDY of the lot.
Anyways its good to be back among the land of the living.
Spent 3 weeks in Tunisia. Morrocco and of all places Libya. On an organised tour!
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By: A330Crazy - 29th January 2003 at 21:14
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What is this Tap video you are all on about?
By: T5 - 29th January 2003 at 21:13
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The SAS Dash 8 posted by Kabir is how the little A319 I was on, touched down at Heathrow last year. I mentioned this in my flight report I think. We whacked down onto the runway with the hugest thud on one set of wheels and then thudded again onto the other set. Terrifying experience! I dread to think what the poor people in the TAP Air Portugal flight were thinking when they came in to land!
By: A330Crazy - 29th January 2003 at 21:04
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That first pic that I posted is taken at LHR, but i’m am unsure when. I bet thats how most of the approaches have been up there today though. When I went up there a few weeks ago, the aircraft where wobbling a little when coming into land, nothing major though.
By: T5 - 29th January 2003 at 20:53
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Nice pics again A330. I bet there have been some real good approaches the past few days with the terrential winds we’ve been experiencing here in the UK!!
By: A330Crazy - 29th January 2003 at 20:12
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Some great pics there everyone.
Heres a few more, icluding a bit of a tail wind shown in one of the pics, causing the aircraft to land nosewheel first! 🙂
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By: frankvw - 29th January 2003 at 19:58
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I guess there were some crosswinds at MAN last wednesday, or the pilot was drunk ;-)… We landed touching with the right wheels first… Ant there were some turbulences during the approach + icing, as i had some ice on my window (not rassuring on a BAe 146).
Luckily the return flight was veeeeery smooth.
By: T5 - 29th January 2003 at 19:19
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Didn’t get a chance to say thanks for that A321 video file Kabir, thanks anyway! Bloody MSN cut me off after receiving it and by the time I got back on, you were gone!
I’m quite surprised it took them so long to figure out that a go-around was necessary. Obviously, they weren’t going to achieve much just bouncing along like they were! 😛
By: Saab 2000 - 29th January 2003 at 18:04
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I have seen a few very dodgy crosswind landings. Some of those pictures look really frightful, glad i’m not one of the passengers!
Anyway nice pictures…Kabir I have also seen that TAP A321 video.
By: KabirT - 29th January 2003 at 16:07
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I think they need to see that TAP A321 video for ultimate crosswind landing attempt dont they EGNM? :9
By: T5 - 29th January 2003 at 16:06
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How nice to see a little Excel thrown in there… 😀
By: KabirT - 29th January 2003 at 15:45
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hmmm crosswind eh…..
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By: Ren Frew - 29th January 2003 at 14:26
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Wow ! that’s what I call a crosswind. It gives creedence to the often quoted notion that landing is merely a controlled crash!!
I’m reminded of a scene at Dublin Airport a year last October when there were severe gales affecting the UK area. I stood watching planes attempting to land in what can only be described as a
Stuka dive bomber technique followed by a pull back on the stick to pull the plane level prior to landing ! The captain of our flight apologised for the two hour crossing from Glasgow, but assured us we would make the return leg in jig time !!! I also seem to recall AW publishing some shots of planes attempting to land at LHR at the same period. Those were dramatic as hell !