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Blugh!!!!

Here it is, the new DHL c/s, On G-BIKX, an ex- BA aircraft.
I don’t like it at all.

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By: MSR777 - 12th December 2002 at 21:19

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Oh my Lord!!!

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By: EGNM - 10th December 2002 at 20:38

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also saves me from the embaressment of spelling it worng 😀 – lol

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By: wysiwyg - 10th December 2002 at 20:23

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EGNM – wys, I like it, much less of a mouthfull. I only used wysiwyg as that’s what I was known as on another board where it seemed more relevant. I thought I’d use the same name to keep the amount of details I had to remember low!

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By: A330Crazy - 10th December 2002 at 19:19

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By having it coloured bright yellow, this won’t stop a mid air crash. White is a more visable colour than yellow at night. Try it, do a test with these two colours, at night, stand at a distance from it, and you see which is more visable to the eye.

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By: EGNM - 10th December 2002 at 19:19

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Cheers Wys!

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By: KabirT - 10th December 2002 at 16:32

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thanx for the info. wysiwyg. 🙂

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By: wysiwyg - 10th December 2002 at 16:24

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No real difference in range as we aren’t doing full chat in the cruise. There is almost negligable difference in the fuel burn, in fact the E model is actually slightly more efficient. As far as I’m aware the thrust increase was a fortunate by-product of an attempt to improve the efficiency by modifying the way in which the engine burnt the fuel.
Although already overpowered with the C engine the E engine is favoured by the charters as we carry much higher payload and fuel than scheduled carriers like BA do with theirs.
From an operating point of view there is not much to have to think about between operating the different engine types as the 757 has an early type of FADEC (full authority digital engine control) called EEC (electronic engine control). This monitors the ambient conditions and calculates the maximum and minimum thrust each engine can produce within its limits and then makes the maximum occur at the fully forward position of the thrust levers and the minimum at the rearward position. This means that if you want full power you can firewall the thrust levers without worrying about exceeding limitations.

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By: KabirT - 10th December 2002 at 15:46

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I dont think if the engine being less powerful it will burn less fuel. Maybe it will conserve a little or use it a little rationaly……like the E class merc. is better on fuel than S…..but both are gas guzlers anyway! 🙂

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By: EGNM - 10th December 2002 at 13:50

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y did they uprate it if the original 752s were so overpowered to start off with!! – beats me – someone please explain!!!! – lol

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By: mongu - 10th December 2002 at 13:39

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If the E-series are more powerful than the C-series (sounds like we’re discussing a Mercedes!) does that mean the C-series has a longer range, on account of presumably burning less fuel?

Or does the E’s greater power apply only if you actually gun the throttles, like when taking off?

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By: wysiwyg - 10th December 2002 at 10:10

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-12-02 AT 10:13 AM (GMT)]No difference between freighter and passenger licensing. The only difference is that you don’t have to make PA’s to freight and you can throw it round a bit more! 🙂
Kev – your description was absolutely spot on. I apologise it might have made more sense if I had said cowling rather than nacelle.
Kabir – totally with you on that.

Compare A330Crazy’s picture with Mongu’s. The different tail pipe was the giveaway that this is an older RB211, although P&W engines have a nearly similar tail pipe design (but BA don’t have any P&W 757’s). The C engine produces 37,000 lbs of thrust compared to the E engines 40,000 when installed in a 757. I have flown them both (although we only have the E engine at JMC) and there is a big difference in how they perform.

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By: Hand87_5 - 10th December 2002 at 08:47

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-12-02 AT 08:48 AM (GMT)]This brings me a question (maybe wysiwyg can help once again).

Does a pilot need a different qualification to pilot a freighter than a passenger airliner? I suspect that the core license might be the same but is there differences?

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By: KabirT - 10th December 2002 at 07:54

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Well i change my mind…its not good. Atleast with this c/s it will not barge into another a/c mid-air!

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By: Bhoy - 9th December 2002 at 23:10

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BIKX was delivered in ’86

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By: EGNM - 9th December 2002 at 22:31

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remembering BA were a launch customer and have been recieving a/c since 1982…

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By: kev35 - 9th December 2002 at 22:28

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Mongu,

the nacelle is the pod which holds the engine. The part attatching the engine to the wing is called the engine pylon. I think what you’re referring to as the exhaust is called the tail pipe.

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By: mongu - 9th December 2002 at 22:20

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Is the nacelle the part which joins the engine to the wing?

I also noticed the exhaust (correct term?) is different to other RB211’s I’ve seen, like in this pic:

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By: wysiwyg - 9th December 2002 at 22:04

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 09-12-02 AT 10:06 PM (GMT)]Yep, absolutely gross…but if it stopped me being part of a midair I’d wear it! Seems strange that the nacelles aren’t painted.

In fact looking closer at the picture the nacelle shape shows that it is an older 757 with C type RB211’s as opposed to the newer and more common E type.

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By: frankvw - 9th December 2002 at 21:10

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 09-12-02 AT 09:11 PM (GMT)]Is it… the new airport’s firefighting truck?

Or an ambulance (they have aprox. that colour here in Belgium: fluorescent yellow with red stripes)

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By: kev35 - 9th December 2002 at 20:45

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C’mon guys. I had a pair of jeans in those colours back in the 1970’s, they were the height of fashion.

Now, I’ll just get my zimmer frame.

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