UAL93

RE: UAL93

Hi, Preston.

Thanks for that. It really is chilling that out of an ordinary clear blue sky such a tragedy occurred. It seems from the transcripts that the hijackers were actually talking to the passengers over an ATC frequency. It must have been terrible for the crews of the other aircraft and the controllers who could hear the screams from UAL 93 but were powerless to do anything about it.

Again, it just goes to show how brave the people were on that flight.

Thanks again.

Regards,

kev35

RE: UAL93

Rite – hear ya go afta a while of typing!!!!

UA93: – Clevland this is United niner three checking in at FL Three Five Zero

Center – United Ninty Three Clevland rgoer FL Three Five Zero

Centre – Uniter Ninty Three that traffic to you in in your one clock five miles, at FL Three seven Zero.

UA93 – Negative contact but we’re looking United Ninty Three.

Unidentified sound

Centre – Did somebody call Cleveland?

Centre – United Ninty Three verify FL Three five Zero.

Centre – United Ninty Three verify FL Three five Zero.

Centre – United Ninty Three verify FL Three five Zero.

Centre – United Ninty Three Cleveland

Centre – United Ninty Three Cleveland

Centre – United Ninty Three do you hear Cleveland – ident please.

Centre – United Fifteen twenty seven, did you hear a company, errr did you hear an aircraft on the frequency a couple of minutes ago screaming?

UA1527 – Errr… Yes 1527 and we couldn’t hear what it was either.

Centre – OK – United 93 if you hear the centre please ident.

AA1060 – American ten sixty and we have a ditto on the other transmittion.

Centre – American ten sixty you heard that also?

AA1060 – Yes sir – err… twice

Centre – Roger we heard it also and just wanted to confirm it wasn’t some interfearance.

EJ956 – Execjet 956

Centre – Execjet nie fifty six go ahead.

EJ956 – Yeah – we’re just answering you call we did hear that yelling too.

Centre – Ok thanks we’re just trying to figure out whats going on.

UA93 (Foreign Accent) – Hello this is your captain can everyone please sit-down and remain seated because we have a bomb onboard. Thank you

Centre – Un – errr… Station calling Cleveland you are unreadable – say again slowly.

Unidentified a/c – Centre did you hear that last transmittion from an aircraft say he had a bomb on board?

Centre – Say again – was that united ninty three??

Unidentified a/c – Centre that transmittion you said was unreadable sounded like he said he had a bomb onboard

Centre – That’s what we thought we just didn’t get it that clear.

Centre – Was that united ninty three caling??

Centre – Execjet nine fifty six that aircraft we believe was transmitting is in your twelve o clock at one five miles – turn left heading two two five and I’ll get you away from him.

Centre – Ok he’s climbing so I want to keep everybody away from him.

EJ956 – I think we have sight of him.

Centre – ?? Ninteen Eighty nine, he’s fifteen miles southbound at Forty-one, turn right heading one six zero.

UA93 ( Foreign Accent) – This is your captain, I would like you to all remain seated – there is a bomb on board and we are going to make a divert and hand in our demands. Could you also remain quiet.

Centre – Was that United ninty three calling??

Centre – United ninty three we understand you have a bomb on board – go ahead

Centre – Execjet Nine fifty six did you understand that transmittion?

EJ956 – Affermitave he said he had a bomb on board

Centre – Was that all you got out of it also?

EJ956 – Affermitive

Centre – United Ninty three go ahead

Unidentified a/c – that aircraft you couldn’t get a hold of has he turned to the east now?

Centre – Yea he’s just gone to the east.
Centre – United ninty three do you hear Cleveland centre??

Centre – OK, Execjet Nine fity six and American ten sixty we just lost the target on that aircraft.

EJ956 – Nine fifty six – we had a visual on him just stand by.

Centre – Do you have a visual on him now?

EJ956 – We did but we lost him in the turn

Centre – You can make a turn back to a two twenty heading and let me know if you can see him.

EJ956 – He’s still there – we got him for nine fifty six.

Centre – He’s still there – northwest of you about twenty-five miles?

EJ 956 – Affermitive for nine fifty six

Centre – Execjet nine fifty six fly heading one eight zero.

EJ956 – We’re making the turn but he appears to be heading right towards us.

Centre – American ten sixty can you see anybody south west of you – can you see that far back of you there?

AA1060 – We’re looking now sir.

Centre – United ninty three Cleveland do you still hear the centre??

Centre – United ninty three Cleveland do you still hear Cleveland?

Centre – United Ninty three – united niner three do you still hear cleveland?

Centre – United Ninty three – united niner three cleveland

Centre (female) – do you see any activity on your right hand side – smoke or anything like that?

EJ956 – Negative – we’re searching

EJ956 – Yep we have a smoke puff now in about our 2 o clock – there appears to b a dark cloud like a puff of black smoke

RE: UAL93

Hi, EGNM.

Is there any chance of you transcribing the relevant bits for us please? It would be interesting to know whether these shed any more light on what happened from the time the aircraft was taken over and the time the passengers tried to retake the aircraft and the crash.

I have to agree with you, it was indeed a very moving programme and I feel the reenactment was well put together. It would have been very easy for the programme makers to overdramatise the events. Mind you, having said that could you ever really overdramatise an event of that magnitude?

Regards,

kev35

RE: UAL93

Hi all,

I watched it in our caravan as i’ve been away with sum m8s – and it was moving – especially for them that didn’t know the whole story.

btw i have the atc recordings of the flight.

RE: UAL93

I saw the program.

Not sure about it, it’s all really speculation about what happened when the pax charged the flightdeck.

I also didn’t think it was a 757, there was defiantely an overwing exit behind one of the rows in the first cabin. In fact, I thought at first it was a BA a/c, looking at the seats, but it obviously wasn’t.

The black boxes were found, but weren’t made public. They were played, in confidence, to the relatives of the victims, whilst saying something about making them public would compromise any future court cases ensuing over the flight.

Beleive me, I had palpitations watching it, but somehow, well, it seemed a bit staged.

But believe me, flight 93 is always in my mind…
My father was enroute LHR-EWR at the time (His was one of 4 BA flights redirected to Halifax), and a couple of years ago, we travelled together on the 8am UA flight from SFO to EWR.

RE: UAL93

Hi, everyone.

“yeh I seen it and have to say that it nearly made me physically sick. What happened on that aircraft was disgusting, evil and
calculated to a degree beyond belief. I dont mind hearing the stories over and over, no-matter how often if it means that the travelling public and aircrews are made more aware of the incidents onboard and thereofre prevent them in future.

I am by no-means a wimp, but listening to some of the actual telephone conversations brought a tear to my eye, something which I talked about openly in my Government and Politics lesson today at college.”

If that’s the reaction you felt I would suggest the programme worked. We have seen so much of the coverage of the WTC and, to a lesser extent, the Pentagon, that it was interesting to focus on the plight of those aboard flight 93. I doubt it will ever be completely known exactly what happened in those last few minutes before the aircraft hit the ground, but the essential fact is that the passengers on that aircraft acted, both out of courage and desperation, in a manner which foiled the mission of the terrorists. These were ordinary people on an ordinary routine flight who were forced to take extraordinary measures, not only in an attempt to save themselves, but also to save those who were the terrorists intended target. Make no mistake, they knew what would happen if they did nothing. They decided to retake the plane. That was why they waited until the aircraft was over a rural area before taking action. They knew they would either succeed, or the plane would go down in the process. Their heroism, and it really was heroism deserves recognition of the highest order. There is a phrase which is often seen on soldiers graves, “Greater Love Hath No Man Than That He Lay Down His Life For A Friend.” That, essentially, is what the passengers of flight 93 did.

On the memorial was inscribed the words “The first citizen heroes of the 21st Century” and that is exactly how they should be remembered.

Regards,

kev35

RE: UAL93

yeh I seen it and have to say that it nearly made me physically sick.
What happened on that aircraft was disgusting, evil and calculated to a degree beyond belief. I dont mind hearing the stories over and over, no-matter how often if it means that the travelling public and aircrews are made more aware of the incidents onboard and thereofre prevent them in future.

I am by no-means a wimp, but listening to some of the actual telephone conversations brought a tear to my eye, something which I talked about openly in my Government and Politics lesson today at college.

On a more aviation-related note now, did anyone else think that the united airlines aircraft featured in the film was an Airbus A319? A safety card was clearly shown as was a passenger sitting adjacent to the overwing exit!?!?!
-jsut something my eagle eyes managed to pick up

cheers,

LGKR

RE: UAL93

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 07:27 PM (GMT)]I watched the program T5, I actually found it quite moving 🙁 It was very well acted out though. I thought it was a good idea to focus on thisflight, as I call it the forgotten flight… by this I mean, more of the spotlight is on the other 3 crashes, simply because they were more terrifying and more lives were lost.

As for the where abouts of the Black Box, I don’t kow if it has been found?

T5 if you go to air disaster.com, it may be able to help you out with your question 🙂

http://www.airdisaster.com

RE: UAL93

I watched something similar on Monday on Discovery.Hearing the phone calls from passengers onboard is extremely sad but at least the people who tried to take the aircraft from the highjackers saved others from death if that aircraft had been directed at the White House.They died heros’.
Apparently the passengers did not take the aircraft over successfully because it seemed,that there was a struggle for control,which lead to the aircraft turning up side down and then crashing at near full speed in to fields,according to eye witness reports.There was also a light aircraft pilot onboard who with the help of ATC,could of landed the aircraft.