AMERICAN AIRLINES CRASH!!!

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I don´t really know what to think about. I find certainly inlikely that a wave like had tear the tail off. I feel quite unusual a corrosion problem. AA maintenance is quite efective. I don´t find reasonable a manufacturing error, since the plane wasn´t new. Terrorist attack…hummm, I don´t know. I am confused, I have talked to an Iberia pilot (from A300) and he can´t simply understand a word.

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Well…latest is they are saying that before the AA A300 took off……2 minutes before that a JAL 747 took off …..and after barely 1:32 mins the A300 tok off which according to rules is forbidden…a plane must wait around 2-3 mins before taking off. Experts say the thrust from the 747 makes a horizontal typhoon. But i dont understand even if this is the case…how come the engine fell off??

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I read in one of the UK dailies that the engine on that particular A300 had given alot of problems in the past, and on the day of the crash the aircraft had been delayed for about an hour due to an engine problem which needed to be fixed. It brought to mind the Chicago DC10 (I think that was AA but I’m not sure), that aircraft lost an engine straight after take off and crashed. I also saw a TV programme once which more or less implied that General Electric engines have the poorest safety record of any airliner engine.

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LAST EDITED ON 14-11-01 AT 03:52 PM (GMT)[p]In the engine pylon of the aircraft there are a small number of couplings to attach the engine to the pylon. My University lecturer said that if one of these breaks, the engine would be able to rock backwards and forwards eventually causing it to snap off. This would also explain the rattling noise.

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I agree with Sauron.
I’ve never heard of an engine coming off an Airbus before. And it sounds like the plane’s major components separated in mid air. That’s very unusual. Usually the a/c remains intact in the air until it hits the ground. I concede there may have been a structural problem with the engine pylon- if this turns out to be a genuine accident, AA is just about ‘gone’ as a major carrier- too much bad luck. How much is it going to take to get the US industry to shrug off its complacency?

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I saw the vertical stabilizer section come out of water on live TV. At the time I wondered how it could have separated so neatly from the body. Hard to tell on TV but no dents or scrapes were evident. If it was hit by an engine, could it look so neat? Contrary to above, the engines show no sign of a bird strike according to officals and are largly intact. Could be a structural problem rather than engine failure. Could be something sinister. Anyway, it seems odd that the engines, tail and body were scattered so widely.

Regards

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Accident.

This time of the year many large birds are on their way South
for the winter. The event occurred near a bird sanctuary which
is also a rest stop for those migrating birds. Large geese will fly at lower altitudes and in close “V” formation and those
engines are not build to withstand ingesting them.

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No need to excuse. I understand not everybody has the same guts as I 🙂

No serious, plance accidents will always happen, now and in the future. Even if technology would be perfect, there is always the chance that a human error occurs. Accidents with airplanes happen occasionally, only not in New York and certainly not after the 11th september. Coincidence? No, both facts just happened at the same time, bad luck.

In 1992, there was also such big accident in the Beylmer, outskirts of Amsterdam. After the crash of a B747 cargo of El AL, there was a diplomatic fight between Israel and the Netherlands. First of all the safety of the Jumbo wasn’t guaranteed (same problem as now with the engines), but the jumbo also transported a toxic gas (sarin?). 40 people were killed, this was the biggest air crash in Europe the past ten years.

Geforce –
“You just lost your flight? Well, I just lost my job”
— sabena employee —

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I have just heard that the FAA had pointed out before that the General Electric engines carried by the jet were “potentially dangerous”….If so, couldn´t they have done anything before?.
it´s crazy. This crash makes me think why I am so scared when Iam a plane and on take off. I remember the DC-10 crash and the engine falling down. This marked my life completely. In the eyes of a small child that was devastating. This has always been my deepest fear. I used to grasp the seat on taking off and counting 100 (someone had told me that after that nothing could happen). Now this fear is coming back. Sorry guys to have express that in public. In the third milleniun, accidents like these (if so) are completely unacceptable.

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Be assured, I won’t make hasty conclusions. I let that to experts.

And my thoughts go to the relatives of the people who died in that crash.

Frank

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Let’s not rush to judgement. Many people thought that TWA 800 crash was caused by Terrorist. Turn out to be a mechanical problem with the center fuel tank!

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I guess it’s ‘just’ an accident. I don’t think any terrorist organisation will repeat 11th september. Coincidence? Maybe. Osama said if he would retalliate, it would be with NBC-weapons, not with another plane-bomb.

This is ofcourse a sad day for NY, but i would have happened without the 11th sept events. Wait and see.

Geforce –
“You just lost your flight? Well, I just lost my job”
— sabena employee —

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Too sad, my sympathies to all the relatives. It sounds like a crash to me. An engine getting off is not usual, but can happen. Sometimes this happens and we aren´t informed since the plane should be able to recover. Too many coincidences with the AA DC-10 crash in the seveties. If a faulty maintenence is confirmed, I have to say that we haven´t learnt anything from the past experience. Let´s wait and see.

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Another blow to New York after september 11th,people’s first thoughts when they heard of this was probably another Terrorist attack on the USA but as of yet there is know evidence to suggest it was.My thoughts lie with the families of those who have died,God bless them.

Regards Saab 2000
All New York airports are closed

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They talk of an accident, but… an engine doesn’t often separate inflight… Wait and see.

An eyewitness just says that the left engine was in fire before the plane crashed, and that debris were falling.

Frank