Hi!
So I´m not sure if I´m in the right place, but here goes anyway. I want to be a pilot. I have graduated from what you call in english I think is a secondary degree education and from electronics more specifically. I got really good grades all and all, but the schooling was not a generalized, but rather quiet profession specific. It did have maths, physics, etc. only to a more dulled down level. What subjects are “demanded” in aviation career? Maths I think is one and physics, but do I need to know how to calculate and do physics or is it just the aptitude or potential for such skills that is required and if it is specific calculations, methods, knowledge I need to have where can I go about on getting them?
My second query is as follows. I moved to finland at a young eight years of age. growing up I had problems in school. I got then diagnosed of adhd. Now at the time I was pressed by family and friends to “get a” diagnose. And I did. I got medication about 3-4 years ago, but never used them and reported that they were no help. I dont medicate in any way. I´m a perfectly able in every way and dont have any more than mundane restrictions of any disorder. And have never had any even when you look at my early school reports where I was class best often. I know that this will effect my application to the aviation school. Is there anything I can do about this?
I´m currently in the military serving my years service, which after I will apply or during when I will apply for aviation later this fall. this particular school is “free” in that i think its about 10 000 or something at you get that also as a support from social services. anyway, I really really want to get in, Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for taking the time to answer
By: slims1989 - 1st August 2014 at 23:42
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By: Primate - 13th July 2011 at 10:01
Just wondering. I don’t know what it’s for, some sort of individual share for students, perhaps?
Anyways, good luck. Hope this sorts out for you. 🙂
By: littlepilot - 12th July 2011 at 18:54
I dont know, thats all it said about it. why? what do you think they could be
By: Primate - 10th July 2011 at 15:05
3 500 for PPL A in one payment at the end of the course and 9 000 for CPL A in three payments during the course.
Are those fees for something?
By: BlueRobin - 10th July 2011 at 13:35
Moved from Commercial. This is the place for Wannabees
By: littlepilot - 10th July 2011 at 13:12
Looks interesting. Do you know anything more specific about the price? Does it cover learning materials such as books?
3 500 for PPL A in one payment at the end of the course and 9 000 for CPL A in three payments during the course. There´s nothing about books or like that, but I believe that you can get them of older students used for a cheap price or something.
By: Primate - 10th July 2011 at 11:20
Looks interesting. Do you know anything more specific about the price? Does it cover learning materials such as books?
If you know Swedish, Norwegian or Danish (in addition to English) you can also be eligible for university-based FTOs in Sweden (TFHS/LUSA) and Norway (UiT). Both offer a bachelor’s degree programme in aviation with integrated ATP training (with some differences).
By: Newforest - 10th July 2011 at 09:51
” but I understand it can be paid threw social security and other supports here in Finland ”
Really?! You might be getting a flood of immigrants soon.:D
By: littlepilot - 10th July 2011 at 08:44
@Primate
No, the military is not an option, since I´m not interested in it much, mostly just commercial flying, like boeing 757:s.
Heres a link to the school I´m going to apply to. It´s “free” one I was speaking about. In the english version of the page it dosent say, but in the finnish one it tells in the FAQ´s that the price is 12 500. Thats alot in itself aswell, but I understand it can be paid threw social security and other supports here in Finland
By: Primate - 9th July 2011 at 16:20
What subjects are “demanded” in aviation career?
Such requirements vary with different flight schools and companies/airlines. Some schools and perhaps some companies require their applicants to have some form of secondary school math and physics under their belts, but not all of them.
From my own experience, pilot aptitude testing may involve a relatively small portion of math and mechanics. From a seconday education perspective, the math problems might not be very advanced. If you did OK in secondary school, I wouldn’t worry much about it. Pilot aptitude testing is mostly about other skills and traits. I should emphasise that I can only speak for myself and my personal experience, though.
You say you’re looking for a “free” school. Is this in Finland?
Is the Finnish Air Force an option for you?
PPRuNe can be a good resource for information. Personally I think the mood there can get a bit dark and pessimistic sometimes. Kenneth’s post may serve to illustrate the opinions and experiences of some people, but it’s nothing universal.
By: littlepilot - 9th July 2011 at 08:45
@Kenneth
well the school I´m looking for is a “free” one. There are other school´s but you pay them yourself and i cant do that. So thats why I´m concerned about getting in, its going to be a on demand, getting in. The reason I say “free” is that there is a relatively small payment of about 12 000, but that is also payed by social security etc. here in Finland
Anyway, its also the culture could you say almost about commercial airlines and flying that I´m so interested in.
Also I do already have a degree in computer electronics which is my safe if you know what I mean
By: Kenneth - 8th July 2011 at 17:56
Pprune is good; particularly the “Terms & Endearment” part.
From pprune and other aviation fora I’ve learned that the following is involved in becoming a professional pilot:
1) You pay a lot of money (probable requiring you take a bank loan – if you can find a willing bank), possibly up front (an absolute no-no), to a flying school and get your licences. Delay to be expected, because the school goes broke and the money you paid in advance is gone.
2) One day you have an ATPL and are in search of a job.
3) You get accepted by an airline offering “line training” which basically means that you pay for your type rating (5-digit € sum) and get to fly 100-200 hours in the right-hand seat. You’re not paid, but pay for the “training”. After that you’re dismissed and not employed by them, as the next “candidate” is waiting. And there’s a downturn and no employment is to be had.
or
4) In desparate search of a job, you find that no civilized European airline is hiring. You go to a far flung Middle East, Asian or African country to find employment. In view the human rights situation, political climate, social unrest, health system and/or lacking safety culture, you would probably never have gone there otherwise, not even as tourist. You are homesick and/or your wife leaves you because she can’t stand it there.
5) Still no jobs to be had at home and the massive mortgage still needs to be paid back
Still looks good to you?
Get a solid degree in something (engineering/IT/business/whatever), get a well paid job, get yourself a PPL and buy/lease a fancy aircraft if you want to fly.
That’s what I did/do and never once have I regretted it.
By: TonyT - 8th July 2011 at 13:33
Register on pprune, this is the forum on there that will help you, you might not be able to access it without registering.
http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies-14/
And good luck 🙂
By: littlepilot - 7th July 2011 at 16:35
@~Alan~
yes sir, very much so
By: AlanR - 7th July 2011 at 16:34
Are you saying you wish to become a commercial pilot ?
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th July 2011 at 16:18
I suppose the answer to your questions would best be found if you approached flying schools directly to ask. I would not be able to answer your questions properly because they are quite specific and, with the ADHD issue, confidential.
Do try that and see how you get on. I wish you every success.
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