I’ve brought this over from the thread about Wasp XT788:
It was going way off topic- e.g.
Post 37
So the state has to support him for the rest of his life?
Post 38
Why does it have to be for the rest of his life?
What’s your alternative suggestion for dealing with ex prisoners who can’t get a job?
And yes this should be in general discussion.
Post 39
I didn’t suggest that he wouldnt ever get a job -however fraud on the CV isn’t going to work for most employers!
As to a home – if he is striped of that – do you for one second think that the benefits won’t be coming up with the goods?
So rather than whinge about the state supporting ex prisoners who will need to be supported for the rest of their lives even if they have a job- does anyone have any realistic viable solutions?
I’m not a bleeding heart liberal but as is so often the case all I’m seeing is complaints and no answers.
By: paul178 - 6th March 2015 at 22:49
The “Gentleman” in question would receive £54 a week benefit and his rent paid on a bedsit or one bedroom flat.Jobseekers allowance would boost that but I would not employ him if I still ran a company!
By: Creaking Door - 5th March 2015 at 21:15
So, I still get to live in my house and the government pays…
…so, why would I pay my mortgage again?
By: TonyT - 5th March 2015 at 20:46
I understand where you are going David and in a way it happens all the time, as an example of what I mean..
You take a family who are behind with a mortgage of say £500 a month and are evicted.
The local government then picks up the tab for accommodation at say £600 for B&B.
Why not simply take over say the mortgage and introduce the house into the local council housing stock and rent it to the family, as they will have monies in the house why not either reduce their rent accordingly to allow for that, or when they have got their feet back on the ground sell the property back to them under the right to buy. That way both parties profit from the experience and it keeps the family unit together etc without wasting funding on temp accommodation etc…
By: Arabella-Cox - 5th March 2015 at 20:35
It depends on his assets and how much he stole, the residual is still his.
The amount he was charged with approached £600,000, but they believe it was way way more as the monies raised during Wasp XT788 ownership and prior is not included or known fully.
He pleaded guilty to the ‘sample’ amount of £350K. Trust me, this gentlemen still has many assets & companies spirited away
.
By: David Burke - 5th March 2015 at 18:12
I am not winging – I am pointing out that if the state removes all the possessions of a person it’s highly likely that they will then become dependent on the state
for money and accomodation .
None of which applies to all prisoners – the sum of money in this case being very likely a large exception to the norm.
So my views are not some tabloid
reaction to the perceived benefit
burden – but a clear question as
to how a person will be able to function in society once the various pound of flesh notions have been financially applied.
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