August 10, 2006 at 10:27 pm
After a 17 year break I finally made it into the air today at the controls!
After sitting in both the 152 and Warrior at Conington, I decided to do my training on the Warrior, the cabin width was more comfortable for my waif-like figure, and with my wife & kids as future passengers in mind it felt a lot more solid.
So I was given the checklists and asked to call when I had finished the pre-flight, it all felt very strange, yet somehow familiar….
A long stint going through the checks and trying to find everything (never flown a Piper) was followed by a distinctly shaky takeoff. This is where the level of workload surprised me…trying to scan, lookout, hold runway heading, peg the correct speed, climb angle, trim….but after a few minutes all settled down, it felt kinda normal, the lookout sweep, the instrument scan, balanced turns, I spotted all other traffic before my instructor, all went well until we were on finals!
Then the real differences between Cessna & Piper became apparent, the positon of the nose compared with the piano keys, I wrestled with Trudy as I wanted the nose high, but it needed to be low to maintain speed all the way to the roundout.
In conclusion, I was amazed at how much came back, and how comfortable it was, my instructor said that it was a smooth flight, extremely disciplined, and excellent lookout, so I am pleased!
I just need to get my medical sorted (Warboys is not an AME after all) so will contact Dr Wallace in Barley, and then start working through the PPL syllabus…. 😀
By: wessex boy - 12th October 2006 at 11:54
Janie, methinks you did this post before injection of caffeine & Corn flakes! 😀
By: Chipmunk Carol - 12th October 2006 at 07:15
Wessex: Thanks for the note below. I have moved this post.
By: wessex boy - 11th October 2006 at 22:38
Hi Jeremy, we do not know each other but never mind, I undestand your happiness being back in the air and I am glad for you.
I have had a similar feeling 5 years ago and I know it’s great. If your flights leave you some time, read my story on http://www.pfiquet.be/icarus.pdf
Have a great fun up there
Philippe, Hi, I have looked through your dissertation, makes very interesting reading! almost the opposite to me, you had to fight to get into the air, whereas I was awarded a flying scholarship at 17, and then joined the RAF as Aircrew, but did not really appreciate any of it and threw it all away.
Must try smoking a Pipe whilst flying a Fennec…. 😀
By: Philippe Fiquet - 8th October 2006 at 08:18
Hi Jeremy, we do not know each other but never mind, I undestand your happiness being back in the air and I am glad for you.
I have had a similar feeling 5 years ago and I know it’s great. If your flights leave you some time, read my story on http://www.pfiquet.be/icarus.pdf
Have a great fun up there
By: dmd - 6th October 2006 at 16:38
Nothing whatsoever against Conington Jeremy. It’s an immaculate airfield with great people. Not what I’d call crowded after being based at Elstree for a few years. Just that for a variety of reasons (many relating to my new co-owner) Spanhoe has worked out to be a more suitable base for our aircraft.
Good news about the medical.
Hoping to be flying a Chippie again this weekend, as well as G-DAVD.
By: wessex boy - 5th October 2006 at 11:32
Nice one. Does this mean you will “go solo” soon?
I just have to get the business working a bit harder before I can start the real flying, for some reason my better half thinks that Mortgage, Christmas and School fees are a higher priority than flying lessons :confused:
By: BlueRobin - 4th October 2006 at 17:48
Nice one. Does this mean you will “go solo” soon?
By: wessex boy - 4th October 2006 at 17:44
Rang up my AME to book my medical this Lunchtime (expecting to have to wait a couple of weeks), was offered a cancellation slot this afternoon, took it and am now in proud possession of Class 2 Medical, Another step closer!!
By: Ex-Forces - 17th September 2006 at 22:20
Thankyou very much for the welcome guys, 🙂 its interesting to chat to you all.
but as for the Puma pilot, i served my time in the hot and dusty deserts of Iraq and Afgan myself, not something i liked much but i certainly got my share of flying in seakings and hercules myself on the door with a fierce GPMG, so i send my regards and luck to him.
so are you all most private pilots licenced pilots with RAF backgrounds ? if so dont you get bored flying with no particular tasks ? i can understand you fly with the passion of flying and the thrills of it, which i can relate to, but in the RAF or whatever, you had tasks to concentrate on i guess, i know if i had a licence id be pretty bored and feel restricted as to what i can do in the aircraft.
If these questions are stupid dont hesitiate to bombard me with Banter 😀 its more than welcome hehe 🙂
By: wessex boy - 17th September 2006 at 21:09
He’s joined the Spanhoe Airforce. A nice dry hangar, 24×7 opening, and the opportunity to misbehave. 🙂
I don’t know about Dr Wallace’s Rocket, it could be because he has had it for some time.
Spanhoe is quite a trek from where you are! But I can understand it, Conongton is looking a little crowded nowadays. I will ask Dr Wallace about his rocket when I see him.
I have had to postpone my flying until my main customer actually pays me (I understand you have had exactly the same issue with this organisation!) Once they do I will get my Medical booked and get going
By: wessex boy - 17th September 2006 at 21:03
Hi chaps, im new to this website and just getting to know the regular users etc and trying to get the jist of your character, you all seem very friedly and full of banter, which is fab !
I’m former Army , came out of service approx 3 years ago as a 5 year Private (not something to be proud of 😀 ) But with that in mind i certainly got around alot.
but on that bombshell, my father was a Fitter at British Areospace for some what 20 /25 years.So to put a point to my posting, i have a very keen interest in Aviation,,,, have any of you friendly guys (or women) served in the search and rescue role on the helicopters in the Royal Air Force OR know anyone on this website that has ?
my apologise for changing the subject change hehe not something i intend to carry on 😀thankyou , Mike.
Mike, Welcome to the Forum!
There are a few current and ex- rotary crewmen on the forum, some even managed to do a real job, unlike me who got chopped 2 days before getting my Brevet. I am not sure if any of them got onto SAR.
SeafuryFan is currently on Puma and has just departed for somewhere hot and dusty for a while…..
By: mike currill - 17th September 2006 at 11:21
You’re welcome mate. I know I’m rotten but at least I’m fair, I’m rotten to everyone, no favourites 😀
By: Ex-Forces - 17th September 2006 at 00:06
Hi chaps, im new to this website and just getting to know the regular users etc and trying to get the jist of your character, you all seem very friedly and full of banter, which is fab !
I’m former Army , came out of service approx 3 years ago as a 5 year Private (not something to be proud of 😀 ) But with that in mind i certainly got around alot.
but on that bombshell, my father was a Fitter at British Areospace for some what 20 /25 years.
So to put a point to my posting, i have a very keen interest in Aviation,,,, have any of you friendly guys (or women) served in the search and rescue role on the helicopters in the Royal Air Force OR know anyone on this website that has ?
my apologise for changing the subject change hehe not something i intend to carry on 😀
thankyou , Mike.
By: mike currill - 16th September 2006 at 06:40
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Don’t forget to indicate before you turn right too 😀 😀 😀
Yup we’ve all done that sort of thing.
Moggy
A case of the old saying. There are those who have and those who are going to. I think it applies to most mistakes and most people.
By: dmd - 15th September 2006 at 16:30
He’s joined the Spanhoe Airforce. A nice dry hangar, 24×7 opening, and the opportunity to misbehave. 🙂
I don’t know about Dr Wallace’s Rocket, it could be because he has had it for some time.
By: wessex boy - 15th September 2006 at 13:47
DmD, Welcome to the Forum!!
Where is your machine located nowadays?
Dr Wallace had a rocket when I was a petrol-pump attendant in Barley in the early ’80s, is it still the same one? He used to come in to the garage with a load of jerry cans in the boot of his car for me to fill for some reason :rolleyes:
I’ll give you a call regarding the ballast requirement! 😀
By: dmd - 15th September 2006 at 12:14
Great to hear you’re finally back in the air Jeremy. I have never flown with Trudy but have known her since before she was instructing and think you should do well with her.
Dr Wallace is a really nice chap. He owns a very well equipped Reims Rocket at Nuthampstead. On my last medical I chatted to him for quite a while.
As I think I told you, G-DAVD is not at Conington any longer, but he’s not far away and the offer to use you as ballast still stands.
By: wessex boy - 29th August 2006 at 09:02
DBW, Simonh, Taylorman,
Thanks for the comments, safety is my primary concern, otherwise my Wife would never let me even start!! This is why Gavin and I have agreed a plan that is stricter than what the CAA lays down as a minimum (re-take of the Air Law Exam).
When I was told to do the walk-around, I bombarded Trudy with questions over the in-cockpit procedure prior to the walk-around (what needed checking with the master on, where the switches were, what flap setting needed to be made, etc) I think this must have given her some confidence, I also went back to the clubhouse with further questions after the walkaround, and went back to complete those checks, and then she came out and ran through the differences and gotchas (cowling catches, ensuring 3rd drain is closed properly, etc).
Once we were strapped in we went through the checklists thoroughly and the main differences explained (fuel pump/pressure gauge, parking Brake, rudder trim, etc).
Having done the walk-around it meant that I was back in professional flyer mode before getting in the cabin which meant that the lesson was much more valuable.
Cheers
Jeremy
By: SimonH - 26th August 2006 at 00:26
Funnily enough I was an instructor until moving onwards just recently. I formed the opinion, rightly or wrongly not to put too much trust in what I was told by a new student or PPL I had just met for the first time and reserve opinions on their ability until I had seen them fly. I’m sure that WB has a fair amount of skill having been through RAF training and am not getting at him at all. I believe IMHO that an instructor should demonstrate the differences when someone flies an aircraft for the first time.
Yep, fair points. But WB was also previously a qualified PPL who would have presented his log book for inspection. However, we are talking about differences between aircraft when doing a preflight check
Like WB found, most SEP’s are basically the same whether its a Spitfire or a Cessna. Most GA planes have all the checks on a checklist. Its a simple case of doing each check and ticking it off when done. If you can’t trust a qualified (albeit rusty) PPL, how are you ever going to trust a fresh student with a few hours under his belt?
But going back to the little chat and establishing previous knowledge etc. From reading one sentance on this forum I have formed the opinion that WB’s attitude is spot on. He said“….safe enough to fly my family” That gives me the impression that he is a chap that wont take risks, wont take chances and would ask if he was unsure about something. Add to that the fact he was actually a full licence holder a while back and I can understand why he was allowed to do the checks himself.
By: DBW - 25th August 2006 at 19:15
The first thing any good instructor will ask is “Have you flown before?” If the answer is “yes” they will then talk to you to establish what knowledge you have and what sort of person you are. It may appear to be just an informal chat, but in reality they will be building a picture of the type of person they are dealing with….is this person competent, trustworthy and capable or are they trying to sound more experienced than they really are.
Funnily enough I was an instructor until moving onwards just recently. I formed the opinion, rightly or wrongly not to put too much trust in what I was told by a new student or PPL I had just met for the first time and reserve opinions on their ability until I had seen them fly. I’m sure that WB has a fair amount of skill having been through RAF training and am not getting at him at all. I believe IMHO that an instructor should demonstrate the differences when someone flies an aircraft for the first time.