So who wants a referendum on EU Membership?

Hi All,
The Conservatives want a referendum since when ? Wasn’t it that bunch of liars that promised one then reneged on it ? The only trouble is that most party’s have promised this that or the other then when having been elected into parliament have turned round and stuck to fingers up to those who elected them in.
I sincerely believe we the electorate only have the power to make or brake the party’s apart from that what we say really doesn’t matter as all party’s will do as they please for instance there has been quite a lot made out of the UK not going to Syria the voting was within 15 votes so it was a pretty close call and not the resounding success that was chirped about in the media.
Now we have Tony Blair bleating on about how he wants the Iraq enquiry results and it was not him holding the enquiry up, personally I don’t believe him I also think him and George bush should be charged with murder a all the servicemen let alone civilians who died in Iraq, those who fought where under the belief they where in the right but what happened no WMD. Back to the subject at hand as far as a referendum goes a resounding YES! from me then we may get some control of the laws in this country that have been made a mockery of, we will not get one unless the elected party in government is forced to act on it’s promises made their manifesto to the electorate.

Geoff.

Seeing that I started this post but did not nail my colours to the mast I will state my position. Yes I was in favour of an European Union on trade but what we have now is something I would never had countenanced

With apologies to JB for plagiarisation – “Personally I think that a lot of the SUPPORT shown towards the EU and its institutions is based on misunderstanding or downright ignorance”

I’d never have guessed that’s what No 5 in your list wanted 😉

Moggy

haha, yes very subtle :p

I thought you guys and girls mind find this list of parties that want an EU referendum interesting / helpful

I’d never have guessed that’s what No 5 in your list wanted 😉

Moggy

It’s not only in this country where the population want more of a say.
Several countries in the EU have their version of the UKIP party.

I thought you guys and girls mind find this list of parties that want an EU referendum interesting / helpful

The Green Party
No2EU
Plaid Cymru
Socialist Labour Party
We Demand a Referendum Now
An Independence from Europe Party
Harmony Party
Liberty GB Party
Conservatives
UKIP
BNP
Britain First

Personally I think that a lot of the animosity shown towards the EU and its institutions is based on misunderstanding or downright ignorance. If the referendum is a chance to dispel some of this then bring it on – I just don’t have much faith that this will happen. I think we’ll sleepwalk into a costly EU exit, largely because of the problems mentioned.

Do I want to belong to a non democratic association based on fraudulent and corrupt practices ? No, I do not.

In a democracy it never hurts to let people have their say.

If the EU is as great as its supports say, then the good people of the UK will agree….and they have nothing to fear.
By denying a vote, the supporters weaken their cause…basically they’re saying: “the people are too smart and they’ll vote against it…therefore they must be stopped” or it will say…”They’re too stupid to see what a great idea it is”.

In either case it shows contempt for the public.

I do

YES

We need the referendum as a stick to beat the EU with in order to help get the concessions we want. A vigorous, well informed and well reported pro- and anti- campaign would also go some way to influencing minds on the continent that we are genuine in our intention to re-evaluate our relationship with the EU.

Ultimately it makes not a whit of difference whether we say we’re staying in or opting out as we’ll still need to trade with the EU and, whether thats through the EEA/EFTA structures or some Swiss-style accommodation, it still means we have to follow EU rules if we want to trade with them. Suppose it’ll make a lot of work for the legislators, political media outlets and leaflet printers/poster makers though.

Yes, because what we initially signed up for was a common market for goods, and It was sold to the public as that, the rest has been added on without a by your leave to the public.
Additionally I think we should have the referendum before the changes, that way we can say yes or no. I would like to see it extended to if yes, should we…… Devolve UK law to the EU etc.

After we have renegotiated I think it would be right to have a final in/out referendum based on those terms, yes.

Moggy