Damage Limitation.

Hang on by take with you i assume that the UK would still be paying them,why aren’t the Eastern European countries you would move to paying it like we are then?

Because we are MUGS Gary, that’s why, in a nut shell.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

The whole ‘freedom of movement’ policy within the EU is being abused. The evidence is all around us, look at the immigration stats. Then look at how overburdened the entire infrastructure of our nation is.

Unless all nations within the EU have a common standard of living, with common benefits and a common health system, it is all deeply weighed against us.

Those laws need fixing.

This system is being abused, and being abused at our expense.

So you’d be ok with the inevitable reciprocal discrimination that British citizens may face as a result?

As for your claim, I’m yet to be convinced. Abuse does exist, but how prevalent is it?

So, if i move to eastern Europe can i claim benefits from them?

You’re entitled to claim whatever the citizens of that country are, that’s the point.

So, if i move to eastern Europe can i claim benefits from them?

Beveridge would be turning in his grave if he knew how far from his aspiration we have come.

Those laws need fixing.

This system is being abused, and being abused at our expense.

They should only be entitled to the amount they have previously contributed

Unless you change the benefits system to be a contribution based one, where everyone is treated equally, then this would be illegal. EU law means that laws can’t discriminate against against citizens from other EU states.

Some people might not like it, but I’m sure there would be complaints if British immigrants in France/Spain faced similar restrictions/conditions to the ones being suggested.

That is a very good question.

If British pensioners who have moved to Spain are claiming their pension and winter fuel allowance why are unemployed migrant workers in Britain not able to claim unemployment and housing benefits from their own governments?

Strange that it may seem Gary, the answer is yes, you would not only be entitled to the Winter fuel allowance, but there are certain other benefits you could “Take with you” should you decide to leave this land of milk and honey.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Hang on by take with you i assume that the UK would still be paying them,why aren’t the Eastern European countries you would move to paying it like we are then?

Which is where plan b comes into force, not a lot to steal on South Georgia

Apparently none of these economic migrant are coming to the United Kingdom to be ‘benefit scroungers’, according to their own governments, so if they are working it should not cost their own governments a penny (a cent).

I believe that most of them do come here genuinely looking for work, but they soon discover that the work is hard to get, and that’s why many end up on benefits. This also explains the frankly shocking crime statistics for immigrants.

They should only be entitled to the amount they have previously contributed, certainly with regard to job seekers. Or, perhaps the EU law should be changed so that the country of origin has to pay their benefits.

That’s a brill idea, I just hope we have an M.P. on the forum, that sees this idea, and carries it further.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

If i moved to an eastern European country would I be entitled to benefits from them?

Strange that it may seem Gary, the answer is yes, you would not only be entitled to the Winter fuel allowance, but there are certain other benefits you could “Take with you” should you decide to leave this land of milk and honey.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

That would also get around them destroying their documentation as they would need them to claim, well, unless they come from a Country that pays none…

Has the Child allowance loophole been plugged? at one point i believe we were paying Child benefit to migrants for their Children still at home in their Country of origin.

I strongly believe it’s an ongoing benefit, How do they check out, if a claimant in this country has indeed ANY kids back home or not?.Do they send anyone out there to check?, I doubt it.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

If i moved to an eastern European country would I be entitled to benefits from them?

That would also get around them destroying their documentation as they would need them to claim, well, unless they come from a Country that pays none…

Has the Child allowance loophole been plugged? at one point i believe we were paying Child benefit to migrants for their Children still at home in their Country of origin.

…perhaps the EU law should be changed so that the country of origin has to pay their benefits.

I agree; that is an excellent idea.

Apparently none of these economic migrant are coming to the United Kingdom to be ‘benefit scroungers’, according to their own governments, so if they are working it should not cost their own governments a penny (a cent).

Unemployment benefit is not the only benefit that their own government should pay; housing benefit should also be included.

A similar arrangement is in place for medical expenses abroad (if you are British anyway).

They should only be entitled to the amount they have previously contributed, certainly with regard to job seekers. Or, perhaps the EU law should be changed so that the country of origin has to pay their benefits.