Legalising Drugs

Criminalising people drink driving hasn’t worked, should we try a trial for that as well?

Legal or not money will still be needed to buy the drugs. You are correct drugs are the reason for most burglaries in this country. Would it matter if they are legal or not?

As for most people who do take are probably mentally half way there already, that’s a sweeping statement and not a positive one either.

Criminalising drink driving has worked as and when the police catch them.Lack of enforcement is a problem that shouldn’t be there in this day and age.
Whats wrong with my statement about mentally being half way there? ,i bet the majority of people have had problems that have made them mentally weaker and susceptible to them.

It doesn’t seem to matter how high up you think you are http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24989742

Jeez, as for drinking, you should have been with me in the RAF in a Germany in the 80’s, everyone had kidneys like rugby balls, it cost more to put the mixer in the glass than the short, so pints of Bacardi coke etc was the norm, that’s about 8 shots, if I remember right the coke was about 25p and a short about 10p, so a pint was about £1-05.
Being duty free it was cheaper per litre to buy Vodka than it was windscreen wash, so one filled ones car wash bottle up with it.
Ahh happy days, crate of Grolsh under the bed, booze allowed in the block for immediate consumption, challenged some guy that a crate wasn’t immediate consumption, so he drank it in front of them…. Legend.

Criminalising drugs hasn’t worked so far so why not give it a trial for 10 years and see.If it is done on the basis of being a W I P then review it.

Criminalising people drink driving hasn’t worked, should we try a trial for that as well?

I appreciate what Jim Linc 7 says but he dealt with the 1% that were trouble in his job,the other 99% of the population aren’t really trouble but the drugs are the reason for most burglarys etc in this country.
Most people won’t ever touch drugs,those that do are probably mentally half way there already.It MAY even provide a deterrent to those contemplating it if they see people who are affected by it may be turned off..

Legal or not money will still be needed to buy the drugs. You are correct drugs are the reason for most burglaries in this country. Would it matter if they are legal or not?

As for most people who do take are probably mentally half way there already, that’s a sweeping statement and not a positive one either.

Yes my suggestions are serious but due to the fact that I am rather ill at the moment I have not got the time or energy to expound on them at this time. As soon as I feel better believe me I will be back to justify my thinking.

Take care, look after yourself…….

Planemike

I’ll second that!

Ah thankfully missed all that Linc but glad it got sorted.:)

All down to the fact, that we have the best Moderators of ANY Forum, who have shed loads of common sense.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Yes my suggestions are serious but due to the fact that I am rather ill at the moment I have not got the time or energy to expound on them at this time. As soon as I feel better believe me I will be back to justify my thinking.

I don’t know,the things we men do, to get out of Housework, and Christmas Shopping, get well soon, you ole bugg**,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D

Jim.
Lincoln .7

…Holland has a more enlightened attitude…

Do we have any Dutch contributors; and has legalising cannabis in Holland caused any serious problems?

I can only relate one slightly amusing story about a friend who went to Amsterdam for the weekend. He went to a café where you can legally buy cannabis; I am not sure exactly what he tried but he has never smoked so whatever it was it was cooked into some sort of cake. The effect it had on him was negligible, nothing, absolutely zero…

…until he got to the airport to fly home.

Then he got this terrible feeling that there was something wrong with the plane and that it would certainly crash; then he got into a bit of a panic about the airport for some reason. Anyway, to cut a long story short, he missed his flight and had to leave the airport and ‘sleep-it-off’ on a bench by the roadside for a few hours!

I suppose the interesting thing, and the thing that made me think of the story, is that he would never have tried illegal cannabis in Britain.

Sorry to hear that, Paul. Get well soon and back to the fray here!:)

As Charlie says,get well soon thats the main thing .

Sorry to hear that, Paul. Get well soon and back to the fray here!:)

Yes my suggestions are serious but due to the fact that I am rather ill at the moment I have not got the time or energy to expound on them at this time. As soon as I feel better believe me I will be back to justify my thinking.

Ah thankfully missed all that Linc but glad it got sorted.:)

Didn’t think anyone had “taken a pop” at him………
Paul’s suggestions have certainly stirred the debate though!

Chas, somebody, tried, by complaining about me on the Royal Marine Post, if one cares to read it.
Since Moggy has replied to said complaint, no one has posted anything further.which is rather sad realy, as it was going quite well.
As I stated, some …………
B.T.W. Thanks to those who gave me their support.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Didn’t think anyone had “taken a pop” at him………
Paul’s suggestions have certainly stirred the debate though!

I don’t know why folks were having a pop at Jim, nothing he had said deserved it. Myself I’m all for legalising some drugs, several of them have been shown to have pain relieving properties and to ban them from people using them is more to do with the stigma attached to them, Holland has a more enlightened attitude. I haven’t tried any nor wish to do so, but I look on it that tobacco is probably a lot worse both addictive wise and health wise than some other drugs, it is still sold simply because it had spread world wide and became a billion dollar legitimate business before the health effects became known.

Knowing Paul, I am sure means it 100%…………………:o
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Hi …..

I don’t know Paul. Just thought the suggestions were totally impractical and would not be enforceable. If people want to take drugs I am sure they will do.

Planemike

Knowing Paul, I am sure means it 100%…………………:o
Jim.
Lincoln .7

So lets debate it.
I will copy and paste my answer from the other thread.

Legalise all drugs for those of 18 or over provided

1 They sign a disclaimer that the NHS will revive them only.

2 No surgery or treatment for problems brought on by drug misuse

3 Any crime caused by drug users is subject to a mandatory 5 year minimum prison sentence

4 They are entered on a drugs register and finger printed(to keep tabs on them,get prescriptions and stop them getting treatment away from home)

5 Using dugs will not be allowed as a valid excuse in law to get a lighter sentence.

6 Obviously none of the following doe not apply to those who are prescribed drugs for other illnesses just so called “recreational drugs”

Anyone found dealing drugs should also have a mandatory term of 10 years to life.

That’s for starters .

Please tell me these AREN’T serious suggestions……..

Planemike

Ten units could take me a month, or two, or three…..or (occasionally) an hour!

Indeed. Wine had become my main alcoholic drink with a dram of Highland Park, Scapa, Laphroaig or Lagavulin now and then. But as my stays in France became shorter and less frequent and now rare I missed the choice and value for money buying there and slowly also ceased to mind much whether I had a glass or not. So 10 units or so is what it is…….:)