Abu Qatada

my biggest grumpy old man moan these days is that all the little scrotes in this fair land are taught their rights at school but nobody ever seems to teach them their responsibilities.

Well said.They ought to be taught their rights and then sign a legal binding contract to stick to their responsibilities and be upstanding law abiding citizens.

Exactly so and in recent years those two sides of the coin have become further detached from each other. I am old enough to believe that the two are inseperable. If you want your rights you must accept your responsibiities to the society in which you chose to live.
It is shameful that judges and lawyers have renounced that cornerstone of civilised life.

Now Sir i do not allways agree with the views you express, but this one im with you 100% my biggest grumpy old man moan these days is that all the little scrotes in this fair land are taught their rights at school but nobody ever seems to teach them their responsibilities.

Exactly so and in recent years those two sides of the coin have become further detached from each other. I am old enough to believe that the two are inseperable. If you want your rights you must accept your responsibiities to the society in which you chose to live.
It is shameful that judges and lawyers have renounced that cornerstone of civilised life.

My view is that human rights and human responsibilities (i.e. being a decent law abiding citizen) should be considered two sides to the same coin, and if you fall too far short on the latter, you shouldn’t expect too much of the former.

:D:dev2:

Like a Trout to a Fly Chas. :highly_amused:

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Well done, Linc – I wondered if you’d respond!!:applause:

Some time ago, I stated France was good for only one thing, and I would say what it was, when I remembered :confused:
Thread 21 has refreshed my memory, It’s how they get rid of their unwanted,possible threats.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Interesting comment….

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10025512/France-shows-us-how-to-deal-with-jihadis.html

If they are free, grab them while you can, Linc!!:highly_amused:

Human Rights are good for some things, his case however isn’t. A bullet would be far cheaper, then blame some other radical group for doing it.

Saw my Dr. the other day, and he was going on about FREE Radicals, Jeeze, you just don’t know who to trust these days :dev2:
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I can think of one Middle East country that has used C-130’s for the same purpose.

General Galtieri had an interesting way to deal with undesirables. His C-130s would fly them half way to a destination and let the undesirables take care of the remainder of the journey on their own.

Slow leaky boat….

I blame the press, they have given him a stage, without it he could have been stuck on a slow boat home and no one would be any the wiser about him.

Today’s Telegraph editorial suggest that Alan @ No.4 is about right. The Telegraph ‘fingers’ our judiciary as the principal culprits in preventing deportation. The paper suggests that the French, as they have done in the past, would simply and quietly remove him without fuss. No one has yet complained.

if I was in charge, he’d have fallen down several flights of stairs in Belmarsh prison some time ago–whilst strapped to a heavy filing cabinet.
I wouldn’t even f** about wasting parrafin on an aeroplane flight home for him.
That’s the message we should sending these people–come here and p*ss about and you’ll die. let’s face it, it’s the only language they really understand.

Stop pussyfooting around the ECHR and our bewigged buffoons, one way trip to airport, private jet* to Jordan. End of problem. Then just ignore the hand-wringing, human rights tosspots cries of outrage…

*paid for by Jordan of course…

yep on a plane home with his family and its up yours to anyone that complains. It sure as hell won’t be the majority of British citizens Theres a good vote winner for you Dave. Tell me what can anyone do after the event apart from be outraged and moan?

Yup, stick him on a plane and deliver him and his family home… You should EARN the right to live here, preaching hate is not earning squat.. It reminds me of the blind cleric with the hooks, the Americans took no bull and promptly removed his tin openers when he arrived stateside, myself I’d have sharpened them up and dunked him in itching powder. This country need to remove a lot of the Human rights laws preventing deporting these scum, it’s like that sh*t that was done for rape but couldn’t be deported, where was the poor girls rights? I’d of cut em off and fed them to him.