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1000mph. Brits or Yanks 1st?

seems as though the Americans F104 conversion is at least doing powered ground runs. are us Brits getting anywhere??.

which one would you fancy your chance in??? 😮

the kitten?. something for the girlies as the rest is man stuff 😀

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By: Guzzineil - 19th October 2012 at 21:37

no the weather was glorious.. 🙂

only Tyrell I remember was this one with Jackie Stewart driving it.. he put on a good show, stopping every so often and giving it a bit of a ‘boot full’ away again…

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/8064274533_483896bc58.jpg
20121007_145925 by GUZZINEIL, on Flickr

we got there towards the end of the morning session so didnt see everything

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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th October 2012 at 21:24

Nice photos Neil.Brings back many memories.Pleased to see the weather didn’t cancel the parade.

Was the Tyrell 6 wheeler there?.

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By: Guzzineil - 19th October 2012 at 20:41

Just to veer off topic again, here’s a couple of snaps from Bourne 🙂

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8180/8064226744_5114ab531e.jpg
20121007_141244 by GUZZINEIL, on Flickr

Damon..
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20121007_142838 by GUZZINEIL, on Flickr

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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th October 2012 at 20:12

I saw a De Lorean in Peterborough about two yrs ago, and spoke to the owner. He stated it had cost him so much money to keep it on the road, that he couldn’t afford to scrap it, and kept pumping money into keeping it going.No dealer would touch it, in a part exchange.

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By: j_jza80 - 19th October 2012 at 19:17

Nah!! a De Lorean, then you could go back to the future, and it ran on rubbish food etc, just think of the petrol you would save;)

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Actually, the ‘MR FUSION’ only replaced the plutonium reactor. The petrol engine was still required to reach 88mph, hence the train ride in Back to the future 3.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th October 2012 at 19:00

Just had a look at the Link, I collect Land speed record car models, but have you seen the price of their model?.
That apart, I wish them all the luck in the world, even though it’s a lost cause, Aus,,,, Beware, the Brits are coming:diablo:
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By: Mahone - 19th October 2012 at 16:53

The American Eagle / F104 team aren’t even aiming for 1000mph… their target is about 850. The real competition for Bloodhound is this guy….

http://www.aussieinvader.com/

…designed in part by John Ackroyd, who designed Noble’s Thrust 2

Now an American taking the record is one thing. But an Aussie?
Oh, the shame….

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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th October 2012 at 15:22

Hi Guzzineil. No, I never even knew the parade was on until I read about it the following week in the local rag. I would have loved to have gone and watched and also taken some photos, would have brought back many happy memories, not only of the cars at BRM but the drivers also.Plus the annoying fact is, that I only live 20 miles away from there.:rolleyes:
Thanks for asking though.
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By: Guzzineil - 19th October 2012 at 13:51

Charlie, I have also met Raymond Mays, he lived in a large house next to the works in Bourne….

Slightly off topic but Jim did you get to the BRM day in Bourne a couple of weeks back? they were running BRM single seaters plus other period racing cars through the towns streets.. 🙂 Damon Hill was driving one of his Fathers cars, and Jackie Stewart was performing in a Tyrell…

back on topic, the Bloodhound SSC team succesfully tested the hybrid rocket engine in a HAS at St Mawgan (I mean Newquay airport 🙂 ) a week or 2 ago… I think the choice of South Africa was mainly about the available length and quality of surface – I ‘think’ Bonneville is shrinking… the SA government are also putting some money into improving the area for this attempt (and perhaps futre ones)..

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By: Shorty01 - 16th October 2012 at 19:05

National pride aside I reckon Bloodhound is the best bet. It has been designed from the start to travel supersonic on the ground with a large amount of experience from previous successful attempts. All the components will have been specified, built, tested & integrated based on the requirements for the record attempt. In short it is purpose built for the task it is being used for.

The Starfighter isn’t. It may be good above the ground but on it I wouldn’t be so sure. I assume they have done aerodynamic analysis on it. I’d be interested to know how the shock patterns interact with the ground as it goes transonic & also when it is supersonic.

Good luck to both teams & I hope neither has a mishap. It’s more exciting with a bit of competition anyway.

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By: EELightning - 13th October 2012 at 20:39

Being a Brit, I’d obviously go for the British side, with that out the way I’d still say the British team have a more compelling design and not to mention (as was before hand) their experience. Just as long as the Yanks do what they did at the Ryder Cup this year, chant “USA” over & over again, whoop & holler and boo like crazy when its the opposing sides turn… then get totally owned at the last minute – not just totally owned, like, ankles pinned behind their ears owned. Pure gold!

Regarding Damon Hill, I’ve met him three times and always thought he was a canny chap, though very modest about what he was capable of. The third time was last year at Croft, also met Georgie & Josh and they’re very nice too I found. All three were very grateful that I were there supporting Josh in Formula Renault and Damon remembered me from ’99. I guess a lot of people don’t always hit it off.

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By: Deskpilot - 13th October 2012 at 00:18

One question, one observation.
Does the 104 still have it’s ejection seat?

If that cockpit canopy on the Bloodhound comes off, it’s ‘good by’ pilot as he’ll be ejected through the **** end……in very little pieces.

Must say though, I prefer the British entry.

Oh, look carefully PistonRob, you can see the all metal wheel poking out under the fuselage. Very little ground clearance there.

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By: paul178 - 12th October 2012 at 21:37

I defnately think the UK will win this one. It has been well resorced and tested so barring accidents the 104 is a non starter and in my humble opinion it is a accident waiting to happen.Hats of to all who try though it takes a certain kind of bravery or foolishness to try. So as long as the drivers walk away best wishes and luck to them both!!

BTW i hope the 104 does not have the downward ejection seat still fitted!

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By: pistonrob - 12th October 2012 at 20:09

With talk of the Campbell clan i feel i must thrust this under your noses. obviously i couldnt get Donald to sign the prints of “Tomorrows Salute” but i did the next best thing and got the pilot of the Vulcan to sign the prints. The pilot was Don Dale and Donald Cambell was a hero to him as he was to most of that generation. much the same as Malcolm was to the folks in the 1930/40s.

Don was on exercise in the area the day after the tragic crash of Bluebird. he suggested the idea of a flypast to his crew whilst in flight to which they readily agreed to. the Nav gear was switched “off” and this was put down to a glitch in the electrics.. they performed the flypast at around 2000 feet to stay above the light aircraft and helicopters as they waggled the Vulcans wings down the length of the lake. this was seen by Gina Campbell just as she got into her car.

The good deed done, the crew of the Vulcan carried on with the mission after the Navigator “fixed” the Nav gear. on return to base Don was told by the ground crew chief to go see the CO. he was in lots of hot water to say the least.. whilst they had carried on with the mission the worlds media had approached the RAF to congratulate them on a fitting flypast, to which they answered
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………………. NOT ONE OF OURS! …………….
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This was on the headlines of most of the newspapers the next day 😀

..TOMORROWS SALUTE (by me).. note the ghostly image of the Vulcan

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By: Andy in Beds - 12th October 2012 at 17:26

John.
I’m not looking for an Anglo/American p*ssing contest here but Gabriel Uttley told me that the South Africans were much more amenable than the Americans when it came to him personally.
(I am of course refering here to the Angelic Bulldog bike record).
I think he just felt that they behaved like Bonneville was their own preserve and not for uppity Brits.

Of course it could be him, or them, or both, or adults behaving like children–or all the above…!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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By: J Boyle - 12th October 2012 at 17:20

I think the reason for South Africa is the available surface is better and that it’s more friendly there–perhaps the Americans are a bit inward looking when it comes to ‘foreign’ attempts.Andy.

When the attempt going to be?
Remember, winter is coming and the US is still in the Northern Hemisphere.:rolleyes:
In SA it’s spring….so perhaps they’re after better, drier weather.

Also, the Bonneville Salt Flats are on public land, perhaps an environmental or permit issue…

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By: J Boyle - 12th October 2012 at 17:17

The group with the most money will win.

The UK effort sems much larger, better funded, and as seen here, a source of national pride.
Likewise…99.9% of Americans don’t even know that something like this is goiung on.

The UK has always had a “thing” about land and water speed records…and Campbell was a far bigger hero in the UK than any of his American counterparts…

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By: charliehunt - 12th October 2012 at 17:08

Verneukpan has history – Malcolm Campbell went in 1929!! Apparently once cleared of stones of which there are millions the surface is far superior to Utah.

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By: Andy in Beds - 12th October 2012 at 16:54

Why are they attempting to do the record breaking attempt in S.A.
I was under the impression they always used the Salt Flats in the U.S.A.
Any particular reason for the change?.
Jim.
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Well I’ve been following this little project for some time.
It’s British too and I really hope Gabriel Uttley succeeds.

http://www.angelicbulldog.org.uk/

I think the reason for South Africa is the available surface is better and that it’s more friendly there–perhaps the Americans are a bit inward looking when it comes to ‘foreign’ attempts.

Actually the thought of hurtling across a bit of desert powered by two Honda Blackbird engines grafted together rather does it for me.
I’d have a go in a trice.

Andy.

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By: pistonrob - 11th October 2012 at 18:02

cant believe your all waffling on about smokey old Rovers 😀 .

there is a Cosworth engine fitted within the Bloodhound. its being used as a short duration high speed fuel pump

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