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What do members think of the current Judicial System, The C.P.S. and the Police Service?.
What improvements would you make, that would give the General Public, would feel, that in many cases, Justice had been not only done, but seen to have been done?.
I have posted on here before, that the C.P.S. years ago were told by those above they had to “Lose 17.5% of cases” no doubt to make the numbers look good.
Judges, one of which earlier this year, fell asleep at the bench, and as such, the Trial was halted, the Jury discharged, and a fresh start to the case re opened, this cost well over a Million GBP.
So, whats the answer?.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th August 2012 at 11:12

I’d go down the US bail bonds route and have bounty hunters making sure criminals turn up in court and for any community scheme they are supposed to attend.
That would free up police time, employ a few people and make sure criminals are chased up and do what they are supposed to do.

I agree, the times I have had to attend Courts, where the criminal has failed to turn up, and a “Bench Warrant” has had to be issued for their arrest,Always seemed to co inside with my Rest Days.
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By: atr42 - 19th August 2012 at 10:56

I’d go down the US bail bonds route and have bounty hunters making sure criminals turn up in court and for any community scheme they are supposed to attend.
That would free up police time, employ a few people and make sure criminals are chased up and do what they are supposed to do.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 19th August 2012 at 10:01

I used to have a huge amount of respect for the police, but not so much these days.

Once criminals have been convicted, their human rights should end on being taken down.
Bring back the death penalty for clear cut cases of unmitigated murder, and make all prisoners pay for their keep by digging roads, removing graffiti etc in chain gangs.
Prisons should not be cosy places with TV, internet, conjugal visits, etc, but a harsh environment with corporal punishment for miscreants, making them the last place offenders want to return to…

Al, Whilst I agree with what you say, the Human Rights brigade wouldn’t allow it.
It’s not so long ago, that some lag won a very large sum of money stating that the matress he had been issued with, caused him back ache, don’t they say that lying on a hard surface helps?. my answer would have been to tell him to sleep on his cell floor.
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By: Al - 19th August 2012 at 09:51

I used to have a huge amount of respect for the police, but not so much these days.
It seems like motorists and the general tax-paying public are easy prey to inflate their ‘collar’ statistics, while they appear very reluctant to get ‘stuck in’ to real criminals like drugs dealers, burglars, rioters, looters, and pikies.
Let dreary admin bods do the bulk of the beat constable’s paperwork, so that more time can be spent on the streets, and give every policeman on the street a firearm after extensive training.
Once criminals have been convicted, their human rights should end on being taken down.
Bring back the death penalty for clear cut cases of unmitigated murder, and make all prisoners pay for their keep by digging roads, removing graffiti etc in chain gangs.
Prisons should not be cosy places with TV, internet, conjugal visits, etc, but a harsh environment with corporal punishment for miscreants, making them the last place offenders want to return to…

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By: TonyT - 18th August 2012 at 17:36

Bring back the death sentence, stop tagging people and jail them, give a deterrent not just a slap on the wrist… 3 counts and you are out… With a minimum 5 years no parole. True there will be a rise in prison population until it sinks in, but it will then drop.
Make shoplifting a jailable crime again..
Remove all TV etc from prison cells and make it what it is… Punishment…
And rip up parts of the Human Rights legislation.

Make the Police have to pass an annual fitness test as per the services, rip up the job for life and go the Services way with contracts renewable at say 5 then 10 years etc
Bin these stupid results tables where the police will arrest you for stupid stuff like dropping a cigarette butt to make up their required arrest numbers when a simple telling off would suffice…
Remove Polititions from the Judicial system

I could go on and on.

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By: Indiaecho - 18th August 2012 at 11:09

I wouldn’t pretend that everything is perfect.

However, it i impoertant that the judiciary and judges remain independent and can’t be leant on by politicians. Unfortunately that means that sometimes they will get things ‘wrong’, and sometimes they will give decisions that people dont like( albeit how many people commentating on decisions base their criticism on a tabloid news report rather than reading the actual court report). However, this is preferable to a system where they are accountable to politicians or some sort of quango for their decisions.

And I wouldn’t want a system where the CPS have to succede in 100% of cases either. This would see borderline cases not coming to court, and again, especially if added to politically controlled judges, would make it very difficult for the wrongly accused to get justice.

And this idea that it is one rule for the rich and one for the poor – Jonathon Aitken, Jeffrey Archer, Jonathon King, the MP Expense defrauders amongst others may take a different view….

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By: waco - 17th August 2012 at 15:43

Well Lincoln……its a subject which you know far more about than I do.

I know we must avoid the US plea bargin system like the plague which I think is unsafe and unjust.

The trouible for me is that legal costs are so high it becomes virtually impossible for “the man on the Clapham omnibus” to bring a civil case due to expense.

If that situation could be resolved I things may improve. But, lets face it, thats never going to happen. Hence the man in the street has little or no access to the legal system.

Personally I have little trust in the legal system, the CPS and the Police. I concentrate on trying to avoid any personal participation with any of the above.

I would happy see an all party investigation into “law and enforcement in the country (different I know its different in all four countries)”. Alas I fear the ruling classes are only interested in preserving the status quo of the class system and the ruling elite which exists.

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