July 19, 2012 at 7:00 pm
On holiday i saw these ships sail passed. They were returning to Devonport on the Plymouth Sound. Anyone know which ships they are (without looking checking on a website first)?
Tony.

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By: Moggy C - 23rd July 2012 at 07:31
Thanks, I know about Sackville and would love to include her on a trip to Canada to see RAF Penhold, where Dad spent some of his war. Well done Canucks.
The saddest thing I learned recently is that ‘Compass Rose’ from The Cruel Sea movie went to the breakers yard before the film premièred. 🙁
Moggy
By: 19K11 - 23rd July 2012 at 04:30
The Japanese have blurred things even further with thier 17000 ton full length flight deck destroyers.
By: paul178 - 22nd July 2012 at 22:38
Just for Moggy, at least the Canadians saved this
By: TonyT - 22nd July 2012 at 22:24
It’s an even bigger pity so few of today’s ships survive either.
By: Creaking Door - 22nd July 2012 at 21:35
A great pity that so few WW2 era ships survive; and a great pity that there is so little interest in preserving ships generally. 🙁
By: Moggy C - 22nd July 2012 at 21:19
Many thanks 🙂
I was always a great fan of the Tribals (Fleet Destroyers) and, of course, the Flower Class Corvettes
Moggy
By: Creaking Door - 22nd July 2012 at 19:30
Historically the difference was in their role and this translated, usually, into a difference in size; destroyers being bigger than frigates.
Destroyers were originally ‘torpedo-boat destroyers’ and were designed to provide fast, small ships, armed with quick-firing smaller-calibre guns, to provide a screen for the dreadnaught battleships from enemy torpedo-boats.
Before WW2 destroyers had evolved into bigger, longer ranged, general-purpose ships mounting dual-purpose guns and depth-charges to protect the fleet and merchant ship convoys from enemy ships, submarines and, later, aircraft.
Modern destroyers are principally anti-aircraft ships with a secondary anti-submarine role; they carry long-range anti-aircraft missiles to protect a group of warships from aircraft (or missile) attack.
Modern frigates are principally anti-submarine ships although they do carry short-range anti-aircraft missiles (and / or guns) for self-protection. Both destroyers and frigates usually carry a helicopter that is the principal anti-submarine system although ship-borne anti-submarine homing torpedoes are also usually carried.
Since before the Falklands, in the Royal Navy at least, the size distinction has become blurred; the Type-22 frigate having a greater displacement than the Type-42 destroyer for example. Much of this was politically motivated; the Royal Navy attempting to fool the Treasury into allowing funding for ‘cheaper’ frigates rather than expensive destroyers!
Modern destroyers are very big by WW2 standards; the new Royal Navy Type-45 destroyer being as big as a WW2 cruiser.
By: Moggy C - 22nd July 2012 at 16:59
What’s the actual difference between a Frigate and a Destroyer?
Moggy
(Just back from a week on a boat)
By: Tony at BH - 19th July 2012 at 23:00
Many thanks guys.
By: blackcat54 - 19th July 2012 at 21:56
F213 FGS Augsburg
By: paul178 - 19th July 2012 at 19:26
Easy
With whats left of the Royal navy I know the numbers off by heart
F235 HMS MONMOUTH Type 23 Frigate
D97 HMS EDINBURGH Type 42 Destroyer
F213 German Frigate in the spirit of fairness I did not look her up but she is a Bremen class ship