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Graffiti or Street Art ?

Whilst looking for a subject to try out a new camera on I stumbled upon this …. It’s another ‘marmite’ thing …. love it or hate it ??
I often think some are works of art ?? unfortunatly others seem to want to ruin even the best of them !!

Keith 🙂

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_0042-5.jpg

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By: tornado64 - 27th December 2011 at 23:37

most if not all of these usualy turn up in areas where there is often dereliction or dire depressing wall space

for example we do have a few turn up in inapropriate areas but to be fair they are usualy not the artistic sort and are realy more gang tags

most of these http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=705&q=beldam+asbestos+graffiti&gbv=2&oq=beldam+asbestos+graffiti&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=1733l14245l0l17154l24l24l0l15l0l0l168l1280l0.9l9l0 are in a part demolished factory a couple of miles away from me ( strangely they seem to be very well done tags ) but very few if any have been done on the streets

realy don’t get why the assumption is they are all stolen either !! as most do it for an art form and do pay or ask for donated

i remember in 1986 when the metrolink in manchester was still in B.R’s hands B.R. were having problems with thier carriages being graffitied the upshot was B.R. ended up paying two graffiti artists to paint works at key stations , the art was great and brightened up otherwise drab depressing station areas

the result was graffiti seemed to die off on the carriages , there was a huge positive response from the public that passed through the usualy drab areas and because it was new at the time it seemed to get left alone

and we also learn a little of culture from them as it is nothing new , stone age cave paintings , pompei murals , ww2 chads etc etc !!

look through these 3 pages http://www.flickr.com/photos/10295270@N05/favorites/?view=lgand an obvious theme will stand out

1 they mostly occur in what can be described as derelict parts of town were people and councils etc are reluctant to spend money

and 2 they are far better than the unkempt alternative if someone can seriously not see the art in the well done ones of these you also had the oppertunity to buy 5 litres of magnolia masonary paint and go out to make a difrence in the community , the difrence is that you probably just looked and thaught that’s a dire sight it could do with painting !!

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By: Arthur Pewtey - 27th December 2011 at 22:49

Phew! Now I know you’re joking. It wouldn’t be right to be bitter and twisted over talented art work now would it.

I realize that some think that the only art is within a gilt frame but then there are those that are rather more open-minded. 🙂

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By: Al - 27th December 2011 at 22:03

Al – I thought for a moment you were serious……

I toned it down for you Arthur! In reality a bullet is a lot cheaper than keeping them in jail at the taxpayer’s expense…

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By: TonyT - 27th December 2011 at 18:50

Justin Beevers work is stunning, though not permanent as done in chalk sadly… There was a series on TV following him doing various works…. Amazing.

Most though on walls are dire and as said if permission hasn’t been given even worse, those that like em, illegal or not, drop me an address and I will come round and attempt one on your house………… Thought not
another thing, those done by councils etc to brighten up an area by the fact it is Graffitti seems to attract more.

Justin Beevers if you haven’t seen it

http://www.julianbeever.net/pave.htm

http://www.julianbeever.net/images/rafting.jpg

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By: Bruggen 130 - 27th December 2011 at 13:54

Jackson

Graffiti or Art, seen in Spain.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/Bruggen/Picture099.jpg

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By: inkworm - 27th December 2011 at 09:31

Depends what it is and where it is, like all art, some is funny, witty, interesting, stimulating and other is just a mess.

I’m personally not a fan of just tags, no matter how big or well rendered, I do like characters that are often engaging with their environment.

As a wholesome variation this site has some gems on it http://www.postitwar.com/?f3724828

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By: Arthur Pewtey - 27th December 2011 at 08:46

Like all art, this has its place. Some of it clearly shows huge talent at work. It doesn’t have to criminal either, some give permission – and it has to be better than dull grey concrete everywhere.

Al – I thought for a moment you were serious……

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By: Al - 27th December 2011 at 07:10

It’s criminality, pure and simple.
Don’t forget that the paint is probably stolen, and public and private property has been vandalised, all taking taxpayer’s money to put right.
Years of hard labour in a brutal chain gang might make amends…

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By: ppp - 27th December 2011 at 02:29

It’s fine as long as it doesn’t make the place seem gang controlled or the like. The streets belong to the people, not to criminals/gangs ect.

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By: Dr Strangelove - 26th December 2011 at 23:30

done well the modern art graffiti is very liveable with but unfortunately it seems to encourage other morons with no artistic tallent and can only afford one tin of paint !!

Good grief! I actually can agree with you on that, good street art is awesome, but when Johnny Chavster adds his can of duplicolour, it loses its appeal real fast.

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By: tornado64 - 26th December 2011 at 23:01

done well the modern art graffiti is very liveable with but unfortunately it seems to encourage other morons with no artistic tallent and can only afford one tin of paint !!

most though seem to be far more tallented than banksy !!

it is very good to work with photographicly as well

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By: spitfireman - 26th December 2011 at 20:25

Dont know if it is still there but on a visit to RAF Uxbridge a few years ago, I came out of the camp gates, turned right and just a few hundred yards came across some very good aviation/RAF artwork/graffiti in the pedestrian underpass.

worth a look and maybe a photo on here (I didn’t have a camera)

baz

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