December 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Watching the lunchtime news, the Argentinian President is rattling the war chains and stirring up anti-British feelings.
Could they have sussed we would not be able to mount a recovery operation?
Last time we went to war was after the announcement of the withdrawl of the Navy patrol ship HMS Endurance in 1981.
We seem to have withdrawn the rest of the Navy since.
Will we manage?
Baz
By: Bob - 28th December 2011 at 13:48
Think the woman has other things on her mind now…
By: observe - 28th December 2011 at 13:17
I was referring to the Euro situation, not the Falklands.
I know. They’re not “stirring up anti-British sentiment” there either. Criticising Cameron is a different matter. And not all French/German media are pro-Sarkozy/Merkel.
By: Bmused55 - 27th December 2011 at 22:20
PM Cameron seems to be squaring up to the bullies.
By: J Boyle - 27th December 2011 at 22:04
Where is the French and German media stirring up anti-British sentiment? :rolleyes:
I was referring to the Euro situation, not the Falklands.
And with Brazil, Paraguay and Nicuragua supporting them maybe they’ll make the mistake in thinking they could win.
Don’t forget Venezuela. Chavez is always on an “anti-Imperialist” rant.
He has severe troubles at home, a nice war might be just the thing to get the peóns off his back.
The possible transfer to Argentina of a refurbished model of the French manufactured fighter-bomber Super Etendard, which had an outstanding performance during the 1982 Falkland Islands conflict, is under consideration by the French Ministry of Defence, reveals the French publication, Mer & Marine
“With friends like that…” 🙂
By: Bmused55 - 27th December 2011 at 21:50
Yeah, thats about right. Anything to dig a knife deeper in our backs.
By: raptor2019 - 27th December 2011 at 21:27
Falklands’ war tested modernized Super Etendard in Argentine Navy’s agenda
The possible transfer to Argentina of a refurbished model of the French manufactured fighter-bomber Super Etendard, which had an outstanding performance during the 1982 Falkland Islands conflict, is under consideration by the French Ministry of Defence, reveals the French publication, Mer & Marine
By: giganick1 - 25th December 2011 at 08:56
Would the lease back of Harriers be an option, we still have Lusty and the Ark hasn’t yet been scrapped :diablo::dev2:
By: Firebex - 24th December 2011 at 19:56
Don’t worry guys we are getting the Preserved reserve on standby if needed.
Most of them are supported and maintained by ex RAF , Army air corp and fleet air arm personnel so no problem.We might just need them.
Don’t forget the US may not wish to get involved especially when Oil reserves etc are involved and they may have interest on both sides.Half the oil platforms and companies drilling off the Falklands are actually US owned and they wont want them getting scratched will they ??
Even though we have helped them out of the pooh in Irag and Afghanistan and given them 2 dozen harriers that we could well do with keeping ourselves.The US Military and congress will have very little will to help us in another conflict as they are in financial restraint mode !!!!!
mike E
By: Dr Strangelove - 24th December 2011 at 18:04
The Jerries had the word dolchstoss to further a Stab-in-the-back_legend after WW1
By: Lincoln 7 - 24th December 2011 at 17:22
….they’re always mad at us:rolleyes:
Hi Baz, Isn’t that where the phraze, “Stabbed in the back” originated from, after what we did for the French?.:eek:
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: Bmused55 - 24th December 2011 at 13:49
Their forces might be in a bad way, but get the right (or better said wrong) person in the position to make a decision, they could just try and go for it anyway. I’ve seen plenty Argentinians posting on forums to get the idea the population seem to believe in what their politicians are saying.
And with Brazil, Paraguay and Nicuragua supporting them maybe they’ll make the mistake in thinking they could win.
I have every confidence that what we have on the islands in men and equipment is more than enough to shake off any advance, at least long enough for fresh troops and supplies to come in, and once they do the islands would be as good as bullet proof.
Any escalation in such a conflict by the Argies and Co to counter a reenforcement of our forces would be answered when Cameron asks Obama for a carrier or two to trundle down and rattle their sabres.
I’d imagine the mere sight of a US carrier fleet on the radar would send the Argies packing.
By: Dr Strangelove - 22nd December 2011 at 23:25
^^+1^^
Heard their forces are in a more run down state than ours (hard to believe I know)
By: Fedaykin - 22nd December 2011 at 23:10
What is often forgotten when x,y or z newspaper or armchair general states that Argentina is at the cusp of taking the Falklands is the parlous state of their armed forces!
The Argentine armed forces are smaller and in many respect worse equipped then during the 82 conflict, they have also been starved of funds.
They don’t have the sealift capability or the escorts to protect it if they did to put the number of troops required into a beach head. The long retired FGR2Phantom is superior in capability to any jets the Argentine’s operate now. They can’t even sortie enough aircraft to overwhelm the Typhoon’s based at MPA.
All they can do is rattle sabres and play petty games trying to hinder the economy of the Islands. The recent issue with fishing being a good example, fishing vessels use Uraguay to lay up and make repairs. All the Falklands will do is improve the harbour facilities on the Islands, maybe procure a floating dry dock as well and problem solved.
By: spitfireman - 22nd December 2011 at 22:41
Er……France
……………………..and…..er…..Germany!:D
By: observe - 22nd December 2011 at 13:41
So is the French and German media…that doesn’t mean they’re going to attack. 🙂
Where is the French and German media stirring up anti-British sentiment? :rolleyes:
By: paul178 - 21st December 2011 at 22:27
I was hoping it would be one of the last remaining “T” Boats not Astute!
By: spitfireman - 21st December 2011 at 21:59
…or stuck on a sand bank somewhere:p
By: paul178 - 21st December 2011 at 20:48
I would not be the least suprised if one of our subs was not cruising about in the South Atlantic as we speak.
By: ppp - 21st December 2011 at 20:37
@hampden98
We also have Tomahawk, Storm Shadow, Trident, Special Forces, Submarines and lots of air transports. The Harriers were useful last time, but that isn’t to say they would have been so effective in a future conflict. The most effective option is Eurofighters, these are leagues ahead of Harrier. The other main defence is to shift extra troops there as fast as possible, this forces the Argentines to find three times whatever we send to overcome the defenders advantage, and increases the casualty toll they will face in trying to capture the islands.
By: hampden98 - 21st December 2011 at 19:43
Lets send in the carriers and the harriers, oh wait…, what the hell we still have the Vulcan.