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Metal or wood?

What with the current cost of aeroplane building bits, I would just like to know which might be cheaper to use – wood or metal?

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By: mixtec - 28th April 2004 at 17:54

The costs of materials vary, depending on what grade or quality you want. Metal is easier to work with than wood, and is an easier material to understand. Don’t forget wood was once a living thing, and therefore may have been subjected to diseases or accidents which have weakened it’s structure. It’s also susceptible to moisture, which can dramatically alter it’s properties.

Fascinating stuff, wood. As a complete aside to your question, I was shown a pair of original, but non-airworthy, wing spars off a Bristol Fighter a couple of years ago. “Wow,” says I. “These must be about eighty years old then?”

“Nope,” came the response. “More like two hundred. They were over a hundred years old when they got converted from tree to aeroplane…”.

🙂

I dont know how you can say that metal is easier to work with than wood unless your dealing with a kit with metal parts that have already been cut or pressed into shape in a jig. Id say wood is as easy to work with as fiberglass in that the veneers can be molded into almost any shape. Yes wood was a living thing, infact it never really dies unless it decomposes. Wood will last thousands of years if properly cared for. The most important thing about wood is how well it is seasoned. Water is the biggest enemy to wood which can cause swelling or cracking which is why wood should be properly protected by a sealant. Things like disease and “accidents” I dont think are that big an issue as that really only affects the outer part of the tree, and can be readily detected early on. Wood has fantastic compression qualitys which is why it is still used as spars in sailplanes. It is also stiffer than composites and in my opinion is not used simply due to predudice of the average persons perception that it is “low tech”.

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By: DazDaMan - 26th April 2004 at 09:22

There’s only been one that has ever flown (as far as I know)! Continental 0-200 engine (100hp), and the wings are one piece, but they do unbolt from the fuselage – thankfully!

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By: Wrenchbender - 26th April 2004 at 08:48

I have never seen one of those. what type of engine and do the wings come off for transport home? I wish they built a RV-7 with folding wings.

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By: DazDaMan - 26th April 2004 at 08:39

Going to build. One of these (out of wood – the next one is/might be metal).

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By: Wrenchbender - 26th April 2004 at 08:30

Are you building or just thinking of building DAZ?

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By: DazDaMan - 26th April 2004 at 08:18

Will do, Melvyn 😉

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 25th April 2004 at 23:48

Originally posted by DazDaMan
Thanks for that, Steve.

I’m considering another project (after the Isaacs Spitfire), but this time with a welded steel tube frame and aluminium wings….

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Daz, get your first one finished first and then decide. you might end up heartily sick of building aeroplanes.

I know I am.

Melvyn

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By: Wrenchbender - 22nd April 2004 at 03:29

Spruce is getting very expensive. I would go with SM

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By: ageorge - 21st April 2004 at 19:02

Look up Aircraft Spruce Europe and give David Dawson a phone , he will talk you through aircraft quality spruce and mahogany ply , definately not cheap – but like Moggy says – do you want cheap stuff or quality stuff . Great Plains are good for aircraft quality hardware – AN fasteners , metals , rivets etc – they have a comprehensive selection of stuff – but it has to be sourced from the US.

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By: DazDaMan - 21st April 2004 at 13:22

Not mad… eccentric 😉

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By: wysiwyg - 21st April 2004 at 12:12

OMG…I’m developing an image in my head of a mad inventor wearing a white coat in the garden shed with a chemistry set with loads of vapours bubbling out! 😮 😮 😉

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By: DazDaMan - 21st April 2004 at 10:14

Thanks for that, Steve.

I’m considering another project (after the Isaacs Spitfire), but this time with a welded steel tube frame and aluminium wings….

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th April 2004 at 23:27

The costs of materials vary, depending on what grade or quality you want. Metal is easier to work with than wood, and is an easier material to understand. Don’t forget wood was once a living thing, and therefore may have been subjected to diseases or accidents which have weakened it’s structure. It’s also susceptible to moisture, which can dramatically alter it’s properties.

Fascinating stuff, wood. As a complete aside to your question, I was shown a pair of original, but non-airworthy, wing spars off a Bristol Fighter a couple of years ago. “Wow,” says I. “These must be about eighty years old then?”

“Nope,” came the response. “More like two hundred. They were over a hundred years old when they got converted from tree to aeroplane…”.

🙂

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By: DazDaMan - 20th April 2004 at 12:55

Hmm… good point, Moggy! 😉

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By: Moggy C - 20th April 2004 at 12:28

If I were sitting in the driving seat I’d rather the builder had phrased the question

“Which is better…”

Rather than

“Which is cheaper….”

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Moggy

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