September 26, 2007 at 10:47 pm
I just want to extend my support to the brave people of Burma n their struggle against tyranny. I wish them the best of luck and hope they break the shakles in which they are currently bound.
To the rest of the world I urge them to overcome their own selfish economic and commercial desires and the indifference of some other states in order to bring about the freedom that the people of Burma so deserve.
I hope you all feel the same!:)
By: RyukyuRhymer - 2nd October 2007 at 07:06
a bit off topic.
all this news over myanmar got me interested in its military capabilities. Wikipedia and a few other sites often claim Myanmar`s army is one of the toughest and most seasoned in all of S.E Asia despite having issues with ageing equipment. those who have a better grasp of the region, what do you think of that?
By: Canpark - 29th September 2007 at 10:15
As a Buddhist and a staunch anti-fascist, I am deeply offended by Burma’s fascistic military regime’s attempt to silence the monks through the use of violence. In more ways than one, the revolt of the Burmese people marked the beginning of the end for the country’s fascistic rulers. I hope the people of Burma will prevail and destroy the last outpost of fascism.
By: Souris Magique - 27th September 2007 at 20:41
If there was ever a Junta that needed to go its the one in Myanmar for sure. I was very glad to see the Non-Alligned movement back calls today for dialogue between the Monks and Junta under the guidance of the U.N. I saw an interesting piece of video on CNN today showing a secretly filmed wedding of the the ruler of Myanmars daughter…the oppulance made you sick, also video of a brand new capital city being built in central Myanmar with most of the housing already allocated for the ruling elite:mad: Good luck to the Monks and protestors…all courageous indeed.
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 15:40
…But he started it:mad: ….:D :p
But seriously yeas we are once again drifted bit form the tracks with our obinion exchange, sorry for that:o
By: frankvw - 27th September 2007 at 15:21
Ok, chill guys.
And keep the thread on topic, for once.
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 15:06
Well you are the one who firts a) demanded me to give support to your own obinions and b) ignored the fact that I’ve already given it and yet accused me of not doing it…
so yeah that kinda makes me the fight-picker doesen’t it?
By: sealordlawrence - 27th September 2007 at 14:58
…so you understood that the Aya!!! yell in this on particular posters first post was negative word and ment same as no??
And who are you to call anyone to support anyone in a princible. Should this one particular poster draft a list of all those people victims of other oppresive regimes which you haven’t expressed your support???
Only you could try and pick fight in a thread like this.:mad:
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 14:37
I note that that paticular poster has yet to express his support for those protesting against the regime.
…so you understood that the Aya!!! yell in this on particular posters first post was negative word and ment same as no??
And who are you to call anyone to support anyone in a princible. Should this one particular poster draft a list of all those people victims of other oppresive regimes which you haven’t expressed your support???
By: sealordlawrence - 27th September 2007 at 14:09
The ordinary people tried this back in the late eighties, 3000 of them got killed by the Junta so it is probably understandable that they are on the scared side.:rolleyes: The involvment of the Monks is critical due to their revered place within society and it should be pointed out that contrary to what one poster here seems to be suggesting the ‘ordinary people’ are heavily involved in this. I note that that paticular poster has yet to express his support for those protesting against the regime.:mad:
By: RyukyuRhymer - 27th September 2007 at 12:01
propaply…perhaps the Monks drove them self into near martyrhood in order to provocate the masses.
I only wonder what on why it is that Buddish monks are the ignitor of the rebellion. To my knowlidge, such earthly things like type of government aren’t supposed to be such big deal for religiously strong minded monks. Expecially when we know that the Buddhis monasteries have been in good terms with itself buddish generals of the Junta. The junta has build lot of monasteries and tempels to the monks and havent opressed them in the past.
And then this…makes me wonder wheter the motives behind this are as noble and innocent as some of our American friends migth think at the first hand. And the nasty experiences shows that when things like democracy and freedom are taken to work as a tools for some other motives, things doesent lead into paradise upon earth
I think its because even the junta has respect for the monks, to some degree. they will have to cater to them if they don’t want rebellion in the past. perhaps the monks were willing to let some things slide in the past, but after recent events, enough was enough for them?
in anycase i found a nice flickr site with some pics you guys would find interesting
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 11:24
propaply…perhaps the Monks drove them self into near martyrhood in order to provocate the masses.
I only wonder what on why it is that Buddish monks are the ignitor of the rebellion. To my knowlidge, such earthly things like type of government aren’t supposed to be such big deal for religiously strong minded monks. Expecially when we know that the Buddhis monasteries have been in good terms with itself buddish generals of the Junta. The junta has build lot of monasteries and tempels to the monks and havent opressed them in the past.
And then this…makes me wonder wheter the motives behind this are as noble and innocent as some of our American friends migth think at the first hand. And the nasty experiences shows that when things like democracy and freedom are taken to work as a tools for some other motives, things doesent lead into paradise upon earth
By: RyukyuRhymer - 27th September 2007 at 11:08
To me that seems bit too odd. You would believe that normal everyday people (the ones that actually cares of freedom) would be that one that protest, not buddish monks…
I think the normal everyday people are scared crapless by the Junta. I had a good friend who went there, he said its a real state of fear there. I guess the monks are the only one who carry enough influence to actually challenge the junta.. I wonder if the deaths of these monks will inspire the normal Myanmar person to join en masse? :confused:
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 09:48
well to me its Myanmar;)
Anyway, freedom and democracy are good things, at least in theory, But when a flock of really religiously charged people starts to mengle with politics.. of wich has previously nested under golden ribbons provided by the wery same Junta that they are now protesting against….To me that seems bit too odd. You would believe that normal everyday people (the ones that actually cares of freedom) would be that one that protest, not buddish monks…
So I would Really, really love to see the latest accounts of the monasteries and check out wheter some odd deposits have came from the …western shores:)
before rallying around the flag of freedom. becouse, latest events in the world have proved that freedom can be really nasty thing, if its delivered by the wrong guys:diablo:
By: sealordlawrence - 27th September 2007 at 09:20
Aya!!!
Also for Rhodesia, Siam, Zaire, Yugoslavia, DDR and even for Soviet union and for the rest of the “no-longer-existing country names”…
…Whats wrong to use the name Myamar??
Call it what you like, in the UK and US its referred to as Burma, but either way the point still stands.
By: Gollevainen - 27th September 2007 at 06:29
Aya!!!
Also for Rhodesia, Siam, Zaire, Yugoslavia, DDR and even for Soviet union and for the rest of the “no-longer-existing country names”…
…Whats wrong to use the name Myamar??