I suspect that Old Shape represents a helluva lot of people, more timid than he to express their views on the current state of the UK.

I think there is deep sense of loathing for the government and a great deal of suspicion of the likelihood of the opposition having the guts to change much. Hence the recent poll results.

There is little of the optimism, if any, of the type Bumblebee mentioned because most people feel they have nothing to feel optimistic about. It is dawning on most people that the last 12 years have left us in very, very deep poo and many of us we will go to our graves without seeing much change. Not a prospect I relish.:mad: