Paris News And Orders…(Merged)

Germanwings have ordered 18 firm A319s with 12 options.

Hope they do more expansion in the UK 🙂

We don’t do the gratuitous A vs B stuff any more in here, US Agent.

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LOL…okay…I’ll be more subtle from now on. :rolleyes:

Good man!

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Excellent point.

Do they mention when the A380s are planned to begin operations?

An article I read on Yahoo Biz this morning at six AM mentioned Kingfisher’s A380s were to be delivered sometime in 2010. Which would mean that, by that time, Kingfisher would be able to fly international routes!

Doesn’t this seem like a big gamble for a LCC that, at this point, only has a fleet with just two jets operating? (Please correct me if I am wrong on the aount of aircraft in service!) With such a large market opening up, I would imagine there will be an enormous amount of competition to become the leading LCC in India. Indigo Airlines (Never heard of them until today!) seems to be ready to earn a good chunk of the prize and I am sure that others will as well. Cheers!

We don’t do the gratuitous A vs B stuff any more in here, US Agent.

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Here is some summaryas it is tonight.
That’s in French but you might figure it out …. 🙂

…………………………..AIRBUS………………………………BOEING

ABC (Mexique) ………10 A320 600 M
Air Cairo (Egypte)………6 A318 300 M
Air Caraïbes (France)….2 A330-300 348 M
Air Europa (Espagne)….10 A350 1,7 md ……………….18 B737-800 1,17 md
ALAFCO (Koweït)………12 A350 2 md
Alaska Airlines (USA)……………………………………….35 B737-800 2,3 md
GECAS (USA)……………10 A350 1,7 md …………20 B737 1,1 md
ILFC (USA)…………………………………………………..8 B777
………………………………………………………………..20 B737 2,9 mds
Indigo (Inde)…………..100 A320 6 mds
Jet Airways (Inde)………10 A330 1,65 md …………10 B777
………………………………………………………………..10 B737 2,8 mds
Kingfischer (Inde)…………5 A380
……………………………..5 A350
……………………………..5 A330 3 mds
Qatar Airways (Qatar)…..60 A350 10,6 mds……….20 B777 4,6 mds
– TAM (Brésil)………………8 A350
……………………………..20 A320 2,6 mds
Tiger Airways (Singapour)…8 A320 480 M
Ryanair (Irlande)………………………………………………5 B737-800 327 M

TOTAL (Paris: FR0000120271 – actualité) 271 planes 30,978 mds 146 planes 15,197 mds

Lots of orders for India from new startups…lets hope they dont fall flat on there faces, and also lets hope Indian airports infrastructure doesent fall flat due to the immense pressure unless the government does something about it.

Yup..Indigo has commited to 100 A320s.

Indian budget airline to buy 100 Airbus A320s

June 16, 2005 18:51 IST

InterGlobe Enterprises Ltd on Thursday announced its plans to launch IndiGo, its nation-wide low-cost airline venture.
IndiGo has committed for 100 A320 aircraft with Airbus. Although Airbus did not reveal the agreed price, the catalogue value of the planes is $6bn (£3.29bn).

The venture is being jointly promoted by InterGlobe Enterprises and Rakesh Gangwal, globally recognized for his management skills and expertise in the airline industry.

“IndiGo is the result of extensive analysis and planning by very experienced airline executives and we are convinced it will be a successful new player in a market that is both large and fast growing,” says Noël Forgeard, Airbus president and CEO.

“Airbus A320 aircraft have been chosen by many of the world’s new and successful low-cost carriers, and we like to think that our products are making a valuable contribution to their prosperity,” he added.

“The aviation industry in India is on the threshold of the next big revolution and IndiGo is ideally positioned to fill the fast emerging need for reliable, efficient and economical air travel,” says Rahul Bhatia, InterGlobe Enterprises managing director.

“IndiGo will also make a humble yet significant contribution to India’s growth by creating employment opportunities directly and through ancillary services, ” Bhatia adds.

Established in 1989, InterGlobe Enterprises has a significant presence in the fields of aviation management, travel related services, travel technology, travel distribution services and hotel development & management services.

“We are pleased with our selection of A320 family aircraft for the launch of IndiGo,” says Rakesh Gangwal.

“IndiGo will serve the nation’s air travellers with superior customer service and provide great value for money, using Airbus A320 aircraft that we have chosen because of their passenger comfort, economy and modern design,” he adds.

Rakesh Gangwal has been associated with the travel industry since 1980. In his aviation career spanning over two decades, he has worked with United Airlines, Air France and US Airways in senior management positions.

Airbus’ A320 is one of the most successful aircraft companies in the world, having been chosen by more than 190 customers and operators around the world.

Firm orders for the Airbus A320 family stand at more than 3,500 aircraft, almost 2,500 of which have been delivered. Airbus is an EADS joint Company with BAE Systems.

http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/16indigo.htm

Loosing track of Paris Airbus orders…

Having been out of the office yesterday and par tof today it is safe to say I have come in and found a heap of orders for Airbus announced at Paris. Today there is an order for 100 A320 family from IndiGo, a new Indian airline and now TAM have commited to more A320s and the A350..here are the news articles..

PARIS 2005: India’s IndiGo orders 100 A320 family aircraft
Leithen Francis, Singapore (16Jun05, 12:13 GMT, 207 words)

Indian IT firm InterGlobe Enterprises is to establish an airline called IndiGo and has made a firm commitment for 100 Airbus narrowbodies for the carrier to use on domestic routes in India.

Airbus today announced at the Paris Air Show that InterGlobe is ordering 100 firm A320 family aircraft and will launch a nationwide low-cost airline venture, IndiGo. The statement does not specify which A320 family models the airline plans to take nor when deliveries will start.

It says InterGlobe and former US Airways chief executive officer Rakesh Gangwal are behind the new airline that aims to capitalise on the growth in India’s aviation market.

InterGlobe managing director Rahul Bhatia says in the statement: “The aviation industry in India is on the threshold of the next big revolution and IndiGo is ideally positioned to fill the fast emerging need for reliable, efficient and economical air travel.

Delhi-based InterGlobe was established in 1989 and has a technology division that supplies airlines with software products and IT consulting services. It also has a division that provides passenger sales, cargo sales, route management and marketing services to airlines.

InterGlobe told ATI in March it was considering establishing a domestic airline in India and had already started talking to aircraft manufacturers.

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

PARIS 2005: TAM orders 20 A320s, commits to A350s
Paris (16Jun05, 15:18 GMT, 132 words)

Brazilian airline TAM has become the latest carrier to commit to the Airbus A350 after announcing a memorandum of understanding for eight A350-900s and options on seven more.

As part of a combined commitment announced today at the Paris Air Show, the carrier has also signed a purchase agreement for 20 more A320 family aircraft, including A319, A320 and A321 types. It has also taken options on 20 more from the family.

Deliveries of the A350 – which is set for formal industrial launch in September – are scheduled to begin to TAM at the end of 2012.

First deliveries of the fresh batch of TAM A320 family aircraft will begin in late 2007 and run to 2010.

TAM already operates a fleet of 56 Airbus aircraft including A319, A320 and A330-200 models.

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

Interesting…a -900X or just making the -900 larger than planned?

the funny thing with him is he drops in a few lines every now and then however never really discloses anything substantially greater then things that have allready been floating around (therefore a great source to verify boeing plans particularily 787 and 777) unless it is sales which is his department..I can tell u that he had told me well in advance of the china order and the nature of the split between carriers as well as the plans to add a handfull of seats to the 787 (something boeing decided to do some time back)..

Now regarding the stretch version , it has been doing rounds on the media circle..

The size, range and timing of the larger 787-9 are still open to discussion, says Bair, but he adds that firm configuration is “a couple of years out” and that deliveries are likely in the second half of 2010 — matching the A350-900, and earlier than planned last year.

Aviation Week

He mentioned about this earlier and said certain airlines asked for some more seating (emirates was prob one of them)..they were at that time studying plans to do just that…Hopefully when he comes back he would give me some of the interior pictures and powerpoint presentation on the 787 COMFORT ASPECT other then what has been talked about allredy through various media channels..(packets).

However i am quite positive that we will see a dreamliner order this week(or multiple orders).We are talking to many airlines and many more are interested in getting this aircraft. We are considering increasing the no. of slots for early delieveries, and are also considering a further larger varient (very early to say).

Interesting…a -900X or just making the -900 larger than planned?

Oh this…

PARIS AIR SHOW Boeing wins order for 18 737-800s, options from Air Europa UPDATE

http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/06/15/afx2094417.html

Upto 30 737NG’s and 10 a350’s…so that makes it 5 or 6 airlines for the a350…great going..this air show is doing great interms of the industry is concerned..a big turn around from the post 911 fog..it as so far recorded 35+billion$$ in orders for both A and B….great going…anyway this is what i got from my source when i put forward a question bout wether the delayed 787 order (delayed from this air-show and a complete no show) was indeed Jet airways..

No,not at all the order was substantial to say the least (30 orders and upto 12 options) and was for a European carrier. The order is no way in danger and we hope to announce it this quarter. However i am quite positive that we will see a dreamliner order this week(or multiple orders).We are talking to many airlines and many more are interested in getting this aircraft. We are considering increasing the no. of slots for early delieveries,and are also considering a further larger varient (very early to say).Things are looking good for us and the industry as a whole and our point to point strategy is being verified with every 787 and a350 sold,Airbus is also realizing that point-point works and are gearing up to give us a run with the a350,but we at the sales,marketing level of the 787,777 are confident that our product will hold the marketshare that we predict it will.So far we have over 20 airlines for the dreamliner and that speaks volumes of how the airline industry veiws our offering.I would also like to emphasize the Price and the economy aspect of things.It is perhaps the greatest consideration given whilest selecting one liner over an other,and we are confident that we would be agressive and on an offensive when it comes to offering a better product at more competitive prices.

P.S.-with all these new airlines buying all these new aircrafts i really miss sandy and his liveries 🙁

Told u so…V Mallya is an agressive buisnessman…wonder wether his a380’s would also be delayed by a year or two!!..however good news for airbus with the a350 and the a380…so it makes 4 or 5 airlines for a350 then…good going..

And Kingfisher Air confirms its A380 order!!!!! I am left speechless! 😮

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh69796_2005-06-15_12-05-52_bma000894_newsml

Dozens of jet orders flow in for Boeing and Airbus

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/228500_showorder15.html

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Boeing-93

Valid point…but still starting operations with A380s??? Kingfisher still needs to prove its worth in the domestic sector before taking majour steps.

We all know what happens to airlines that try to expand to quickly don’t we

Yes things can go wrong when u take risks..however without risk u cant do well in buisness…thee UB group has always done that ie. taking risks and the turning them around and making huge profits out of them..V Mallya will hope to do the same..He had absolutely no problem raising money for the Kingfisher airlines (that is how much the communiity (buisness market) regards him as a buisnessman and a PROFIT maker.)..and i’m sure he wont for these a380’s and a350’s either..Would have liked to see them operate some 777 or would at some time..the UB group is an airbus operator and generally likes their aircraft.

Valid point…but still starting operations with A380s??? Kingfisher still needs to prove its worth in the domestic sector before taking majour steps.

We all know what happens to airlines that try to expand to quickly don’t we

kingfisher has 5 more years left before it can go international and as a matter off fact they will also get their a380 deliveries aftre that time..and dont expect them to fly from india with those a380’s during the begining….V mallya is an extremely intelligent man.

Valid point…but still starting operations with A380s??? Kingfisher still needs to prove its worth in the domestic sector before taking majour steps.

this is what Randy Baseler had to say…

It’s been hot, too, in the order department. Over the past two days we’ve seen significant orders and commitments for more than 90 airplanes. Just today, two of the world’s leading leasing companies and savviest airplane buyers ordered 48. International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC) ordered 28 Next Generation 737s and 777s. GE Commercial Aviation Services (GECAS) ordered 20 Next Generation 737s.

In addition to announcing the 737 and 777 orders, ILFC CEO Steven F. Udvar-Hazy made very kind comments about the 787 Dreamliner and our approach to the commercial aviation market.

Also, Jet Airways, the largest private carrier based in India, announced its intent to order 20 737s and 777s.

Now, as I’ve mentioned before, Boeing doesn’t save up and hold orders so we can announce them at air shows. So, I want to point out that these are examples of agreements that came together at the time of the show, and are opportunities for customers to highlight their activity this week.

Whatever the case might be, these announcements help demonstrate our airplanes’ appeal and the soundness of our strategy. With validation like this we know we’re doing things right.

And I have to add that it’s also a great week for the men and women who design, build, sell, support, and operate our 747 and 767 airplanes. Several months ago many people were expecting us to announce the closing of those lines soon. Happily, the recovery that has taken hold is generating enough demand for those airplanes that Commercial Airplanes CEO Alan Mulally was able to announce at his Paris news conference that we don’t expect to have to make those decisions any time soon. I can’t tell you how great it was to hear that.

India seems to be on a roll! Kingfisher A380….. absolutely absurd to me since they cannot fly international yet. A380 on domestic route???

kingfisher has 5 more years left before it can go international and as a matter off fact they will also get their a380 deliveries aftre that time..and dont expect them to fly from india with those a380’s during the begining….V mallya is an extremely intelligent man.

Rivals boxing clever in Paris war of words

Flight International
13-June-05

If you thought the much publicised spats between the heavyweights of Airbus and Boeing were the best entertainment at air shows in recent years then, as they say, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Now entering the ring are Embraer and Bombardier – because what began as a middleweight support bout is now shaping up to be a gloves-off, bare-fist scrap of world championship proportions.

In the red corner is the flamboyant fast-footed contender from Brazil; in the blue corner the ultra-conservative solid puncher from Canada.

After a few preliminary rounds at recent shows in the business aviation world, they are preparing to get at each other’s throats as the bell rings to start Le Bourget.

Both Embraer and Bombardier have been making moves into each other’s territories. Embraer has announced its light jet (LJ) and very light jet (VLJ) that will compete with Bombardier’s Learjet offering. Meanwhile Bombardier has announced a clearly defined offer of corporate shuttle jets that will go head to head with Embraer’s corporate division that offers shuttle versions of the Brazilian’s regional jets.

Communication staff from the companies have been muttering off the record about the other’s weaknesses and positively snapping at each other in public as the war of words has fallen back on the old, well-tested punchbag of unfair subsidies.

Reports have been appearing in various newspapers quoting Canadian sources who claim that the Brazilian company would use military contracts as a means to obtain government funding.

Embraer is not taking this lying down. “We vehemently refute this,” a spokesman says. “The facts show the accusations are unfounded.”

He says defence sales to the Brazilian air force make up just 4% of total revenues.

Firmly warmed up, the Embraer spokesman goes on the attack. “Another ludicrous statement refers to Embraer’s ‘fear of competition’. Contrary to statements attributed to a Bombardier spokesperson, there is no fear of competition on the part of Embraer. There is fear when this competition is supported by unfair trade practices.

“Why doesn’t Bombardier abide by the rules like Embraer? The total development cost of the successful Embraer 170/190 family was about $1 billion without any government support.

“Apart from being devoid of any base, these statements in question constitute a vain attempt to mislead public opinion.”

Jabbing furiously and pushing towards the ropes the spokesman goes for the knock out punch. “As Bombardier resorts to this sort of action, the Canadian company tries to justify the unjustifiable – the utilisation of government subsidies to compete against its technically superior rivals, distorting, in a condemnable fashion, international trade rules and principles established on a fair and mutually acceptable basis and, acting in such a way, hampering the economic and social development of the nations affected.”

In the blue corner, the Canadian brawler is spitting in the bucket, tightening the gloves, hitching up the shorts and punching the air.

Ding, ding! Seconds out, Round 2

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