January 22, 2007 at 7:17 pm
BBC London news just had a report say that a SAS Team normally based in Hereford will have a base in London, They say ment to be a 16 strong team, Obviously they do not say where be based.
I personally think is a good thing if they offer extra protection to the Capital and will also give the police good support in area’s the Police not so strong in, But it also is quiet scary to think they are nessesary, Sign of the times i guess.
By: andrewm - 25th January 2007 at 21:35
Lets get some clarification here:
Even with the SAS being in London call out times still apply. They have a base and travel to and from it, they do not work out of various locations.
In relation to the shooting of the brazilian, the police have their own firearms teams who were observing a premsies when Jean Charles de Menezes walked out and proceeded to the Tube Station.
Those staff acted fearing another bomb attack.
SAS would not have been able to deploy quick enough to deal with this situation and indeed it is not within their remit to do so when compared to the remit of the Met team on that day. I guarentee you their base within London would be above the thames not below.
The SAS are skilled at specialist operations, and whilst it would not be beneath them, would not normally be called in to deal with such events when the police can handle it and handle it well.
I make no claims of not being located within Northern Ireland and post in the Commerical forum many items about aviation in NI. I refer “Kev35” to my occupation listed in my profile, i have hardly claimed either location or occupation to be true.
I do not wish this to turn into a debate over Jean Charles de Menezes.
By: laviticus - 25th January 2007 at 20:27
The SAS where alerted and on route to kensington with in hours of the “embassy incident” ,as they probably were on several other security alerts, as for the shooting of an innocent Brazilian .who says they weren’t.
Not every special forces operation has to be listed and may be the fifty year rule will out the truth.
By: kev35 - 25th January 2007 at 19:52
I think only people who remember the embassy “incident” will would have any awareness of the SAS being in london to be honest.
I do know there is a team based in london but i doubt you can find any source to back this up.
London is, somewhat, the epicentre of the UK and hence its a greater target (as we are all aware). The fact that the only public domestic SAS incident (that is well publicised) is in London should make people concur!
Now, this is the post that ought to be quashed. Especially since Andrew has openly declared to the world that his Father was high up in security circles in Northern Ireland. If indeed elements of the SAS are permanently based in London, can he then explain, with his inside knowledge, why these elements weren’t detailed to take part in the operation which led to the Police shooting of an unarmed and innocent Brazilian>
One other question which has always intrigued me is why Andrew persists in citing his location as Toulouse when he is in Northern Ireland?
Regards,
kev35
By: andrewm - 25th January 2007 at 19:27
I think only people who remember the embassy “incident” will would have any awareness of the SAS being in london to be honest.
I do know there is a team based in london but i doubt you can find any source to back this up.
London is, somewhat, the epicentre of the UK and hence its a greater target (as we are all aware). The fact that the only public domestic SAS incident (that is well publicised) is in London should make people concur!
By: mike currill - 25th January 2007 at 12:24
[QUOTE=andrewm;1072059]Anyone who thinks SAS have not been in london for a long long time is niave or young.[/QUOTECorrect, exactly my point about reading more about the SAS. It is not as though there is a shortage of material. To be frank though, I think the majority of people living in London have probably not even thought about it.
By: BlueRobin - 23rd January 2007 at 18:34
Something else in the public domain.
Any idea what Danger Area D216 nr Credenhill is for? 2300ft and why occasionally 10000ft? 😉
Yup their base and seems sometimes that they like to jump in.
By: andrewm - 23rd January 2007 at 18:17
Anyone who thinks SAS have not been in london for a long long time is niave or young.
By: Grey Area - 23rd January 2007 at 18:13
Moderator Message
I would refrain from discussing this matter folks, or do the words national security mean nothing? Just because the media sre the biggest breach of military security in existence is no reason for us to join in. Read up on past SAS ops if you wish to understand more about them plus you’ll learn something at the same time.
This information is already in the public domain, therefore there is no reason why this subject cannot be discussed here.
Unless, of course, you happen to be really adept at putting genies back into bottles.
GA
By: duxfordhawk - 23rd January 2007 at 06:26
I would refrain from discussing this matter folks, or do the words national security mean nothing? Just because the media sre the biggest breach of military security in existence is no reason for us to join in. Read up on past SAS ops if you wish to understand more about them plus you’ll learn something at the same time.
I understand your concerns, But would say that just stating that the SAS are going to be based in London does not pose a threat to the Nations sercurity, It should be a comfort to Londoners to know that such a professional organisation is involved in our sercurity, And the fact is we will only find out through the news what they want us to know.
I have read a lot of the stories of how the SAS has dealt with past operations, And the fact that such stories are in the public demain has probably more sercurity threat than just saying they are to be based in London after all they have been based somewhere in the UK since they were formed anyway.
If anybody does know anything sensitive to sercurity(i Don’t) i am sure they would not share it on some forum somewhere.
By: J Boyle - 22nd January 2007 at 23:01
Mike
As former military officer (back in the old days I even had a “Top Secret” clearance…I used to be somebody:D ) I appreciate your concern, but I really don’t think that commenting on duxfordhawk’s undetailed synopsis is going to spill any beans.
After all, we wouldn’t want any bad guys to know we have forces ready to stop them….it may prevent them from doing something.:rolleyes:
By: mike currill - 22nd January 2007 at 22:09
I would refrain from discussing this matter folks, or do the words national security mean nothing? Just because the media sre the biggest breach of military security in existence is no reason for us to join in. Read up on past SAS ops if you wish to understand more about them plus you’ll learn something at the same time.
By: J Boyle - 22nd January 2007 at 21:52
I’m rather surprised they aren’t already.
You’d think past troubles (IRA, Embassy take over, etc) would have convinced them of the need years ago.
By: roscoria - 22nd January 2007 at 21:40
BBC London news just had a report say that a SAS Team normally based in Hereford will have a base in London, They say ment to be a 16 strong team, Obviously they do not say where be based.
I personally think is a good thing if they offer extra protection to the Capital and will also give the police good support in area’s the Police not so strong in, But it also is quiet scary to think they are nessesary, Sign of the times i guess.
Perhaps the government should think about stationing Apachie gunships at RAF Northolt, as well as a few Tornado’s. Seems the capital may be a major target for terrorists.
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