January 11, 2007 at 7:55 am
Controverial Islamic cleric Taj al-Din al-Hilali has reportedly claimed Muslims have more right to be in Australia than people of Anglo-Saxon descent because their ancestors were not convicts.
Sheik Hilali made the comments in an appearance on Egyptian television.
He also defended the comments he made last year in which he compared immodestly-dressed women to pieces of meat.
By: Hurrifan - 23rd January 2007 at 23:17
Oh it’s not just Moslems, I assure you.
Have a look at some of the stuff that fundamentalists of all types come out with here..
As I said above, no one culture, race, nation or religion has a monopoly on idiocy. :rolleyes:
Damned right!!!
look at this ;
http://www.leftbehindgames.com/
Basically you kill your way to heaven…members of other faiths need not apply!!!
and this is targeted at kids???
is it any wonder that those of other faiths find it hard to trust some christians??
By: Grey Area - 22nd January 2007 at 18:17
Very true. I guess it’s just that we only seem to hear about the muslim clerics doing this and doing that. Sometimes I wonder just how twisted they have to be in order to say some of the things they do.
Oh it’s not just Moslems, I assure you.
Have a look at some of the stuff that fundamentalists of all types come out with here..
As I said above, no one culture, race, nation or religion has a monopoly on idiocy. :rolleyes:
By: Spitfire Pilot - 22nd January 2007 at 15:18
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I am really beginning to hate muslim clerics…….all they see fit to do in their perverted lives is preach hatred and racism and give all the poor bloody hard working muslims who are honest, decent people an extremely bad name.
Lets not forget that hatred extolled by Clerics is not an exclusive club peopled by Muslim Clerics alone . Christians have a lot to answer for both now and in the past, fundamentalist believers in the Jewish faith are fairly extreme as well .
and the list goes on and on..
Very true. I guess it’s just that we only seem to hear about the muslim clerics doing this and doing that. Sometimes I wonder just how twisted they have to be in order to say some of the things they do.
By: Hornchurch - 19th January 2007 at 01:07
Controverial Islamic cleric Taj al-Din al-Hilali has reportedly claimed Muslims have more right to be in Australia than people of Anglo-Saxon descent because their ancestors were not convicts.
He also defended the comments he made last year in which he compared immodestly-dressed women to pieces of meat.
To those of ‘my’ nationality…….
Just remember WHY the St George’s Cross is ‘our’ flag & WHY it came into being……..:cool: 😎 😎
God Bless our Aussie bretheren.
By: Hurrifan - 19th January 2007 at 00:05
[QUOTE=Spitfire Pilot;1069607]I am really beginning to hate muslim clerics…….all they see fit to do in their perverted lives is preach hatred and racism and give all the poor bloody hard working muslims who are honest, decent people an extremely bad name.
Lets not forget that hatred extolled by Clerics is not an exclusive club peopled by Muslim Clerics alone . Christians have a lot to answer for both now and in the past, fundamentalist believers in the Jewish faith are fairly extreme as well .
and the list goes on and on..
By: Spitfire Pilot - 18th January 2007 at 16:31
I am really beginning to hate muslim clerics…….all they see fit to do in their perverted lives is preach hatred and racism and give all the poor bloody hard working muslims who are honest, decent people an extremely bad name.
Look at what happened after the 7/7 bombings in London……..it was the poor sods running their businesses and making something of themselves that caught the sharp end of the sword.
If I saw someone preaching hatred I’d tell them in no uncertain terms to “go somewhere else and do it where no-one has to listen to their twisted opinions and no-one even cares what they say” 😀 😀 😀
By: Hurrifan - 16th January 2007 at 23:43
I’m sure it was the same in ancient Europe…one tribe taking over another.
If you’ve studied Native American history..tribes often fought against one another…those enemies that were’nt killed were taken as slaves.
Not exactly the prototype hippies that Hollywood has painted them for the last 40 years.And what about those nasty Vikings/Mongols etc.:D
I’m sure if you go back far enough one group of cave dwellers used their advanced technology to take over someone else’s rock.My point is that it was going on long before Australia and the Americas.
What about European colonies in Africa and tha Pacific?
Should the “civilized ” governments/kingdoms of France, England, Spain (and later the U.S.) have known better?
Probably…but judging them by today’s standards is wrong.Might as well fault Di Vinci for not building a glider (he was smart enough to figure it out and he had the same raw materials available as Otto Lilienthal).
sorry thought i had made exactly this point clearly enough that our North American friends wouldnt think they were under attack again !!!! Ireland Scotland & Wales were part of europe the last time i looked and look what happened there !!
By: J Boyle - 16th January 2007 at 23:11
And then there is the indigenous peoples of the America’s , North and South, who had to put up with French , British & Spanish invasion and murder.
I’m sure it was the same in ancient Europe…one tribe taking over another.
If you’ve studied Native American history..tribes often fought against one another…those enemies that were’nt killed were taken as slaves.
Not exactly the prototype hippies that Hollywood has painted them for the last 40 years.
And what about those nasty Vikings/Mongols etc.:D
I’m sure if you go back far enough one group of cave dwellers used their advanced technology to take over someone else’s rock.
My point is that it was going on long before Australia and the Americas.
What about European colonies in Africa and tha Pacific?
Should the “civilized ” governments/kingdoms of France, England, Spain (and later the U.S.) have known better?
Probably…but judging them by today’s standards is wrong.
Might as well fault Di Vinci for not building a glider (he was smart enough to figure it out and he had the same raw materials available as Otto Lilienthal).
By: Hurrifan - 16th January 2007 at 20:29
Muslims are not more Aussie then Anglos, and Anglos are not more Aussie then Muslims. But at least Muslims didn’t commit genocide against the Aborigines by shooting them, steal their land and uprooting them from their ancestral land.
I’m surprised that no one in this world give a damn about the crimes committed against the indigenous people of Australia. But then again, who is going to take responsible for those crimes?
And then there is the indigenous peoples of the America’s , North and South, who had to put up with French , British & Spanish invasion and murder.Never mind the later American subjugation of their native tribes. and then what about the Irish, Scotch and Welsh invaded and deported in their thousands? The Saxons invaded by the French? How far do you go back ?where do you stop?
Yes it is to the shame of Western civilisatons/Empires that their history is so drenched in the blood of the innocents. And it is to the shame of their modern day successors that they still think subjugation and bloodshed is the way to go…they never learn the lessons of history do they?
Yes something must start/continue to be done to allow the pitiful remnants of once great peoples to survive with dignity and a means to retain their history & culture but times pass and time change…we have to learn to live with it and learn from the mistakes of the past.
By: ELP - 15th January 2007 at 13:26
What is more amusing is how whatshisname got into Australia in the first place. The guys history should have prevented him from gaining citizenship however a lot of negative facts were ignored. The guy is a threat. Deport him back to where he came from.
By: Avgas - 12th January 2007 at 14:20
Muslims are not more Aussie then Anglos, and Anglos are not more Aussie then Muslims. But at least Muslims didn’t commit genocide against the Aborigines by shooting them, steal their land and uprooting them from their ancestral land.
I’m surprised that no one in this world give a damn about the crimes committed against the indigneous people of Australia. But then again, who is going to take responsible for those crimes?
O.K. sunshine, if you feel that strongly about it, what the hell are you doing living there?
By: Canpark - 12th January 2007 at 11:16
Muslims are not more Aussie then Anglos, and Anglos are not more Aussie then Muslims. But at least Muslims didn’t commit genocide against the Aborigines by shooting them, steal their land and uprooting them from their ancestral land.
I’m surprised that no one in this world give a damn about the crimes committed against the indigneous people of Australia. But then again, who is going to take responsible for those crimes?
By: Grey Area - 11th January 2007 at 18:34
All this proves is that no single nation, race, culture or religion has a monopoly on idiocy….. :rolleyes:
By: laviticus - 11th January 2007 at 14:38
Controverial Islamic cleric Taj al-Din al-Hilali has reportedly claimed Muslims have more right to be in Australia than people of Anglo-Saxon descent because their ancestors were not convicts.
Sheik Hilali made the comments in an appearance on Egyptian television.
He also defended the comments he made last year in which he compared immodestly-dressed women to pieces of meat.
How to win friends and influence people ,if things arnt tough enough for the Muslims today with out clerics giving the press sound bites.
Besides not all antipodeans originate from criminals some chose to live there.
By: Comet - 11th January 2007 at 14:02
The Aborigines have the greatest right to be in Australia – they were there first.
Were the ancestors of these Muslims suicide bombers you have to ask, rather than convicts?:rolleyes:
By: Deano - 11th January 2007 at 10:20
One word….. “deport”