If Conspirousies don’t Exist How do you explain Albert Pike CLEARLY knowing 3 World Wars where coming before some sort of “New World Order” is to take place?? Especialy his “acurate” prediction of the Illuminati” starting the 3rd World War between Isreal) and Islam 1. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1068 2. http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm
By: Wanshan - 11th February 2006 at 01:26
Why do you keep caling me White Cloud?, and what’s your point, this man (PIKE) did exist and he did write about the New World Order, so what’s your point?? :confused:
“If Conspirousies don’t Exist How do you explain”
WE (i.e. most of us here) didn’t begin stating that conspiracies don’t exist. You did. Since WE didn’t begin stating that conspiracies why should WE have to explain anything?
The reason I keep calling you White Cloud is because it IS a conspiracy.
By: Grey Area - 10th February 2006 at 22:28
Off to general discussion.
Gee, thanks Frank! :rolleyes: :D:D:D
By: frankvw - 10th February 2006 at 22:25
The first point is that *this* has nothing to do in the army forum.
Off to general discussion.
By: CLEAR WAR - 10th February 2006 at 22:16
yawn…… White CLowd, buzz off
Why do you keep caling me White Cloud?, and what’s your point, this man (PIKE) did exist and he did write about the New World Order, so what’s your point?? :confused:
By: Wanshan - 10th February 2006 at 18:42
Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication. He was the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), which had been founded in Paris in 1737. Palladism had been brought to Greece from Egypt by Pythagoras in the fifth century, and it was this cult of Satan that was introduced to the inner circle of the Masonic lodges. It was aligned with the Palladium of the Templars. In 1801, Issac Long, a Jew, brought a statue of Baphomet (Satan) to Charleston, South Carolina, where he helped to establish the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Long apparently chose Charleston because it was geographically located on the 33rd parallel of latitude (incidentally, so is Baghdad), and this council is considered to be the Mother Supreme Council of all Masonic Lodges of the World.
yawn…… White CLowd, buzz off
By: CLEAR WAR - 10th February 2006 at 18:33
Again, when exactly was this information written? 1890 by the man you say, or 1990 by some wacko? Evidence please… 😎
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike 2. Here’s about him on “YAHOO.com: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Albert+Pike&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
By: Wanshan - 7th February 2006 at 09:34
That’d be WHITE CLOWD.
My thought exactly.
By: SOC - 7th February 2006 at 02:58
That’d be WHITE CLOWD.
By: Wanshan - 7th February 2006 at 00:21
If what your saying is true, (Which it’s Not) then how come we’re about to witness his (Pike’s) Pridiction of WW3 which will by instigated by the same Group, (Zionists) who started WW1 & 2 he stated in his books the 3rd World War will be instigated between Islam & political Zionism, matter of fact here’s a brief exerpts of ALL 3 World wars he said will be started by them (Zionist/Illuminati) 1. World War1: Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
2. World War2: Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
3. World War3: “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
Have we met before when you were using a different name on this forum?
By: jbritchford - 6th February 2006 at 13:37
Again, when exactly was this information written? 1890 by the man you say, or 1990 by some wacko? Evidence please… 😎
By: Tony Williams - 6th February 2006 at 12:24
See Big Joe’s comment…I agree!
TW
By: CLEAR WAR - 6th February 2006 at 11:24
Rubbish! The reasons he allegedly gave for the wars happening were simply wrong, as I posted.
TW
If what your saying is true, (Which it’s Not) then how come we’re about to witness his (Pike’s) Pridiction of WW3 which will by instigated by the same Group, (Zionists) who started WW1 & 2 he stated in his books the 3rd World War will be instigated between Islam & political Zionism, matter of fact here’s a brief exerpts of ALL 3 World wars he said will be started by them (Zionist/Illuminati) 1. World War1: Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
“The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
2. World War2: Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
“The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
3. World War3: “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
By: CLEAR WAR - 6th February 2006 at 11:21
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
By: jbritchford - 6th February 2006 at 11:04
Have you seen the original scripts that the man wrote, or have you just read on the internet of what this guy said?
If the former, then its probably just lucky guesswork. He probably wasn’t the only person that said there would be wars in the future.
If the latter, then how hard would it be for someone to make all this stuff up and put it on the internet as fact?
Lots of people say they can tell the future. Nostradamus was believed by many, but alll he did was make vauge statements like “there will be a war,” or “there will be a rebellion”. When he made a prediction that the world would end in 1998 (I can’t remember exactly when), guess what HE WAS WRONG.
As for this, it is just put on the net for suckers. Believe what you want to, but remeber that there is probably more BS out there than actual fact.
By: Tony Williams - 6th February 2006 at 10:18
WRONG!! this man was born in 1809 and died in 1891 LONG berfore WW1 and LONG LONG before WW2 he clearly talked about 2 WORLD WARS which happend so this IS the “EVIDENCE” that shows there IS a “NEW WORLD ORDER Conspirousy”
Rubbish! The reasons he allegedly gave for the wars happening were simply wrong, as I posted.
TW
By: CLEAR WAR - 6th February 2006 at 08:46
The reasons for the start of both World Wars are well known and explained in detail in countless historical studies. They did not require any hidden external forces. And WW2 was not about the Jews (that was a side-issue for Hitler) it was about Germany revenging itself for WW1 plus going on a war of conquest in the East.
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WRONG!! this man was born in 1809 and died in 1891 LONG berfore WW1 and LONG LONG before WW2 he clearly talked about 2 WORLD WARS which happend so this IS the “EVIDENCE” that shows there IS a “NEW WORLD ORDER Conspirousy”
By: jbritchford - 5th February 2006 at 22:24
hmmm.. Stinks of bull$hit if you ask me 😎 😀 😀
By: Tony Williams - 5th February 2006 at 09:42
The reasons for the start of both World Wars are well known and explained in detail in countless historical studies. They did not require any hidden external forces. And WW2 was not about the Jews (that was a side-issue for Hitler) it was about Germany revenging itself for WW1 plus going on a war of conquest in the East.
Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
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