Hi,
Not the sort of thing you see regularly in these forums but here goes:
I live in London and was wondering if people could tell me how bus services are run outside of London. In london TfL tenders routes, operators bid for them and the route is awarded to the best bidder, a bit like with the raileways, but how do things run outide of London. How are routes chosen, do routes get tendered?
Also, does anyone know of any bus forums,
Cheers,
Wozza
By: A330-300 - 25th January 2006 at 07:28
Possibly yes. It isn’t exactly far, although it could be a little unpleasant in the rain…
Paul
Considering how late I’d get for college plus I have a bag with me, no.
It takes 35 minutes on the bus, how long would it take on a bike?
By: PMN - 25th January 2006 at 02:02
I’d REALLY want to bike from Leeds Rail Station to LBA, wouldn’t I now? :rolleyes:
Possibly yes. It isn’t exactly far, although it could be a little unpleasant in the rain…
Paul
By: ollieholmes - 23rd January 2006 at 23:37
The buses around here no one seems to know whats going on with them.
They keep on raising the prices to cover their costs so less and less people use them so they have to up their prices even more.
Around me they dont like bikes on the buses, but again it depends on the actual bus and the driver.
Strangley enough though they are more than happpy about me getting on with my models which have exaust crud all over them and drip oil and fuel sometimes.
By: tenthije - 23rd January 2006 at 21:24
I live in London and was wondering if people could tell me how bus services are run outside of London. In london TfL tenders routes, operators bid for them and the route is awarded to the best bidder, a bit like with the raileways, but how do things run outide of London.
Bus routes are tendered in the Netherlands as well.
The Netherlands are split up in zones (noone seems to know where one zone ends and another begins) and are tendered per zone or block of zones. In some regions regional trains are included under the tender, but that is rare. One example of this is the east of the Netherlands (half of Gelderland and bits of Overijssel) where Syntus operates busses and trains.
Bus services that go through more than 1 tendered zone are done by both bus companies involved. Say company A in zone A and company B in zone B. Bus travel between zone A and B is operated jointly by A and B. So there are no seperate tenders for long distance busses. Since there are hardly any long distance busses it is really not worth the hassle.
Tenders are opened mostly by provincial government. The larger cities can tender local busses on their own. In those cases the local council owned bus companies always get the tender (or at least the more lucrative bits). For instance HZM in Den Haag, GVB in Amsterdam or RET in Rotterdam.
The biggest bus company by far in the Netherlands is Conexxion. They are for a large part state owned, and for the other part owned by the Dutch railways (who just happen to be owned by the state). Others include Syntus in the East and BBA (Connex group) in the south. BBA has recently lost part of its franchise though so what will remain of them remains to be seen. Unsurprisingly Conexxion took over most activities.
By: dcfly - 23rd January 2006 at 20:36
I live in London and was wondering if people could tell me how bus services are run outside of London. In london TfL tenders routes, operators bid for them and the route is awarded to the best bidder, a bit like with the raileways, but how do things run outide of London. How are routes chosen, do routes get tendered?
I live in and drive a bus in South London, the main umbrella companies that operate routes in this neck of the woods are Stagecoach, Go-Ahead, National Express. These companies also run smaller companies outside London and routes are won and lost the same way as in London but with respective County Councils rather than TfL.
My company, London General, are owned by Go-Ahead, as are Metrobus which operate routes in Surrey, Sussex and Kent.
By: dcfly - 23rd January 2006 at 20:27
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Does anyone know if bikes are allowed on buses, particularly in the Leeds area?
Yes but generally at the drivers discretion…!
By: A330-300 - 23rd January 2006 at 07:48
Why would you want to put your bike on a bus? :confused:
Use pedal power you lazy git!
I’d REALLY want to bike from Leeds Rail Station to LBA, wouldn’t I now? :rolleyes:
FP, yeah I’ve tried to call them loads of times but no response.
Anyway, doesn’t matter now.
By: BuffPuff - 23rd January 2006 at 00:17
Living in LEEDS, I can say that the fares keep increasing despite a crappy service. Have never seen anyone take a bike on though….
By: Future Pilot - 23rd January 2006 at 00:02
Why would you want to put your bike on a bus?
Use pedal power you lazy git!
Agreed, admittedly thought it would be rather useful getting around some airports in spotting terms…….maybe
Anyway, couldn’t you call the associated bus company’s in the ‘Leed’s area’ and ask them directly? :confused:
By: Mark L - 22nd January 2006 at 23:56
Cant say any of the drivers I come across would take too kindly to you taking a bike on.
But to be fair they dont seem to take too kindly to anything…
By: PMN - 22nd January 2006 at 23:49
Does anyone know if bikes are allowed on buses, particularly in the Leeds area?
Why would you want to put your bike on a bus? :confused:
Use pedal power you lazy git!
By: A330-300 - 21st January 2006 at 20:25
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