August 14, 2004 at 11:33 pm
Hi
I hope somone can help me out. I seem to remember a plastic kit of a Grumman Gosling. It seemed to be a Seaplane like an Albatross. If it was in the same family of aircraft what was the difference between the Gosling and the Albatross and are there any still flying??
Thanks for any help
Spit
By: John Boyle - 26th August 2004 at 00:10
I agree, however in general useage, a hull aircraft without any built in landing gear is called a flying boat. In several of my books, the straight PBY is called a flying boat, while the PBY-5A is called an amphibian.
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By: Flood - 25th August 2004 at 19:30
The official Grumman name was the Widgeon….
and it was an amphibian…not a true flyiing boat
Hey, what a come back…
A seaplane is an aeroplane whose fuselage sits above the surface on floats so that may take off or land on water.
A flying boat is an aeroplane whose fuselage is integrated into a float-like shape so that may take off or land on water.
By these rules the Widgeon is/was an amphibian yet still a true flying boat. (The Short Sunderland landed on a runway at least once in the many years of its career – still a flying boat though!)
Flood
By: John Boyle - 16th August 2004 at 18:52
Widgeon…
The official Grumman name was the Widgeon….
and it was an amphibian…not a true flyiing boat
By: Flood - 15th August 2004 at 22:02
It seemed to be a Seaplane like an Albatross.
As I put on the Sea Plane thread on historic – they are actually flying boats… :rolleyes:
Flood
By: Mark9 - 15th August 2004 at 21:55
Spit FWIW the Grumman designation was G-44, I forgot to put this info in my post last night. Hopefully some of my ramblings have been of some use to you. A small price to pay for all the info and help I’ve received from the guys on here.
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By: mike currill - 15th August 2004 at 21:30
Spit FWIW the Grumman designation was G-44, I forgot to put this info in my post last night. Hopefully some of my ramblings have been of some use to you. A small price to pay for all the info and help I’ve received from the guys on here.
By: frankvw - 15th August 2004 at 12:55
An Airfix kit in other words… 😀
By: Flood - 15th August 2004 at 01:06
Yep – thats the Aifix kit, alright.
I’ve had two over the years, never managed to complete either because so much needed doing to sort out the joins, remove the rivets, rectify a wharped wing on at least one of them, that sort of thing…
Flood
By: mike currill - 15th August 2004 at 00:18
Actually I’ve just had a thought(ouch, that hurt), why don’t you put this up on the Historic Aviation forum as well? You will definitely recieve more information then. Just had a look at Jane’s and this is what I can tell you:-
The above info on powerplants was correct.
Cabin had seating for 4 or 5.
US Navy designation: J4F. USAAF Designation: OA-14.
American Service name: Widgeon
Wing Span 40ft, length 31ft 1in, height 11ft 5in
I think there are still some airworhty in the USA but not sure.
By: mike currill - 15th August 2004 at 00:09
The Gosling was much smaller than the Albatros with a seating capacity about 6 I think but don’t quote me on that. IIRC the engines were about 200hp each, Ranger inverted inline 6. I am sure a lot more detail will be forthcoming from some of the other members of the forum, I just mentioned the details I could remember off the top of my head. Oh, the kit was from Airfix btw.