Lebanon, Syria Vs. Israel, Political battle

I didn’t want to ruin the Lebanese Mirage thread more than it is already ruined, so here are my replies to the points in that thread:

MEA: you know, I wanted to re-act soon to your post, but instead of becoming involved in the flame war and in a chain of hot actions and re-actions, I thought I’d leave things a day or two to cool down then come back.

During these two days I wanted to express my own opinions regarding the whole Lebanese affair and believe me I have very interesting opinions regarding Lebanon and the Lebanese but I thought better than that, I was actually impressed by your statements that the majority in Lebanon didn’t want the current government, that the majority wants Syria out and that the Syrians are forcing the Lebanese people to vote for the candidates who Syria wants!.

Now lets first analyze Lebanon, ethnically and religiously which – I’m afraid – IS the way to understand Lebanese politics very well:
40-45% of Lebanon’s population is Christian, 25-30% Maronet and the rest Orthodox, Catholic and Armenians.

The rest are Moslems, that’s 55-60% and those are formed by some 30% Shiets, 25% Sonnies and some 5% Druze, that is of course IF we wanted to count Druze as Moslems.

Those numbers apply ONLY to Lebanese who DO hold Lebanese nationality, we know for example that some 400-600 thousand Sonnies of ” Arab Khalid ” are residents of Lebanon since centuries but haven’t been granted the nationality – for political reasons – because France thought it would be creating a religiously balanced country when it cut Lebanon off Syria, knowing that Lebanon is formed of some 2.5-3 million people this shows how bad things would be if Arab Khalid were to be granted the nationality, we are also NOT counting all the Palestinians living in Lebanon who are Sonnies in majority with a small Catholic minority.

Keeping all that in mind we can satisfy ourselves to the fact that Lebanon IS a Moslem in majority country.

Now, to keep a long story short I would like to remind you that when the Syrian forces first entered Lebanon in the 70s and then formed the ” Arab Deterrence Forces ” with other Arab countries, it was to protect the CHRISTIANS who were being defeated by the alliance of Palestinians and Socialists, it was only after they were saved when the Phalange ” Hizb el Katayeb “showed their real face and started committing massacres not only against Palestinians and Moslem Lebanese but rather also against other Christian factions, it turned out their goal was a free Maronet Lebanon, a Lebanon free of anybody else!.

They were rude enough to call on the Israelis – Arab’s main enemy – to help them, they didn’t even like Arabic language and were commonly French language speakers which shows to which degree of treason they have plunged.

Of course the Israelis were defeated – on phases and finally FORCED to withdraw – and so were the Katayeb, regardless of the blood that was shed and the sacrifices done to achieve this goal, Lebanon is now once again a FREE country because of this.

On a side note I would like to indicate I really like the way Lebanon is treating the Katayeb, if you visit Lebanon you’ll find it was completely rebuilt after the decades long civil war in exception of a few buildings in each city, they were left ruins WITH the ” Hizb el Katayeb ” signs left on them that indicate they were Katayeb local HQs to remind each and every Lebanese of the fate of any traitor of his own country.

Now back to modern Lebanon, let’s see you say Lebanese are in majority against Syrians, knowing that very few Moslem Lebanese are – actually only Palestinians can be described as anti Syrian – against Syria, most Christian factions support the current government, so are Moslems, the only strong opposition is the one concentrated in the Maronet minority, even those are 50% supporters of the current government, that leaves some 15-20% of Lebanese as opposition like the General Oun and Doctor Ga’ga’ supporters, now can anyone who is good enough in mathematics tell me how come 20% at most are a majority???.

Even worst, you accuse the Syrians of forcing the Lebanese to vote for certain parties, let me ask you a question: DO YOU KNOW that there are elections nowadays in Lebanon? Have you participated in them? Both of us know that the opposition has candidates in these elections and that General Oun has openly supported many candidates, WHY AREN’T YOU PARTICIPATING? How come you are sitting away whining that candidates you don’t like are winning if you are NOT even voting? How on Earth do you expect a not pro-Syria government to be elected if you and your likes of pro-Israelis are NOT participating in these elections? May be a magical stick would do the trick.

How come you are sitting abroad having nice friendly chats and making friends with Israelis who are the natural enemy and using the bad accent when asking me: ” what are you? Are you Palestinian? ” as if Palestinians are some kind of a disease!! Then when you are told that I’m a Syrian you show all the hidden feelings? Why haven’t you answered my question regarding the SLA? Did you support it? I don’t think you dare say yes as you know this IS treason.

Tell you the truth, this whole affair is disgusting, you even use examples like Dory Sham’on to support your baseless accusations, knowing Dory like many other Lebanese politicians changed sides during the war MANY times between the Syrians and the Israelis I think you can’t be seriously using his statements, his brother wasn’t any better and even Ga’ga’ changed sides many times, IF I have any kind of respect for General Oun it’s because he never changed sides, he was openly pro-Israel and is still so, he didn’t change his skin like the rest of the Lebanese snakes – opps I mean politicians – so be cool man and try next time to THINK before you start spreading your hatred online, it’s not good for you in the first place.

Now to the Israeli, Dan: if you feel like discussing your wide knowledge – i.e. imagination – regarding Lebanon I think I’m more than ready to do so.