The Bill!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by steve rowell
What would i do without ya flood, yer a bottler man, “cheers”

I hope that this is a good thing…:confused:

I have been using Ask Jeeves for these sorts of questions – you type the question in and it brings up sites which are (hopefully) close to what you require. Never replace Google though!

Flood.

Originally posted by NCLRULES
The Bill is a programe in the UK

NCLRULES win todays State the Bleedin’ Obvious Award!
What are the NCLs rules anyway? No chatting when the referee has his hand in the air?;) – Nermal

A lot of Aussie with traces of Geordie hanging on

Steve – is your accent now a sort of geordie/ocker mix? – Nermal

What would i do without ya flood, yer a bottler man, “cheers”

Try these questions on Ask Jeeves…

From –
http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/GeordieOrigins.htm

One theory is that it was the name given to the workers of the railway pioneer `Geordie’ Stephenson, another is that it was a term for a pitman deriving from his use of Stephenson’s `Geordie’ Lamp.
The most attractive historical explanation for why Newcastle people are called `Geordies’, takes us back to the eighteenth century and the time of the first Jacobite rising which took place in 1715. In the previous year George I, a German protestant, had been appointed as King of England, Scotland and Wales despite the strong claims of the Catholic James Stuart, who was known as `The Old Pretender’.
The claims of Stuart were strongly supported by a large army of Scottish and Northumbrian people called the Jacobites who plotted a rising in Northumberland against the new king under the leadership of General Tom Forster of Bamburgh. Recruits joined Tom Forster, from all parts of Northumberland and every town in the county was visited by Forster’s army. All the Northumbrian towns declared support for the Jacobites withthe one major and very important exception of Newcastle on the Tyne, which closed its gates to Forster’s men.
Newcastle’s trade and livelihood depended so vitally on royal approval that its merchants and gentry could not risk becoming involved in a plot against the new king. There were some Jacobite sympathisers in the town, especially among the working classes, but officially the Newcastle folk had to declare for King `Geordie’. Newcastle’s standing as a supporter of King Geordie angered the Jacobites who may well have given the Newcastle people their famous nickname Newcastle people were Geordie’s they were the supporters of King George.
The Jacobites were still nevertheless determined to oust the German king with or without the support of the Newcastle Geordies;
And up wi’ Geordie, Kirrn milk Geordie,
He has drucken the maltman’s ale,
But he’ll be nicket ahint the wicket,
And tugget ahint his grey mare’s tail.
The rising of the `15 was a total disaster and Newcastle perhaps felt it had made the right decision in being Geordie’s supporters. A second rising took place in 1745 when Newcastle once again closed its gates to the Jacobites, who were now supporting the claims of Bonnie Prince Charlie (The Young Pretender). Newcastle faithfully declared its support for King `Geordie’ the Second.
Keep yor feet still Geordie Hinny,
Lets be happy through the neet
For Aa may not be sae happy thro’ the day,
So give us that bit comfort
Keep yor feet still geordie lad
And divvent drive me bonny dreams away

Flood.

Does anyone know why people from Newcastle are called Geordies????

Dodged a police baton, a protestors placard, and a vomiting drunk that day – all with injurous intent…

Flood.

I should hope so.

Kill the Bill?
In this case the Criminal Justice Bill – a picture I took in 1995 (and which looked far better in print than it does as a scan…:rolleyes: )

Flood.

Isnt it something to do with the billy club?

Some suggestions

Old Bill” was King William IV, whose constables were an early form of police. (It is often said erroneously that he was on the throne when the police were founded. Actually he did not succeed George IV until 1830)

The play “The Custom of the Country” written by John Fletcher in 1619 has constables of the watch refer to themselves as ‘us peacemakers and all our bill of authority’.

Constables of the watch were sometimes nicknamed for the bills, or billhooks they carried as weapons.

Kaiser Wilhelm I of Prussia visited England around the time in 1864 when the police uniform changed from top hat and swallowtail coat to helmet and tunic. Such ‘Prussian militarism’ may have led to the police being nicknamed after the first (and today less remembered) Kaiser Bill.

The ‘old bill’ was, in Victorian times, a bill presumed to be presented by the police for a bribe to persuade them to turn a blind eye to some nefarious activity.

New laws for the police to enforce all come from bills passed through Parliament

“Old Bill” might refer to Bill Bailey of the music hall song ‘Won’t You Come Home…?’ used in conjunction with a pun on the Central Criminal Court at the Old Bailey.

In the 1860s there was a Sergeant Bill Smith in Limehouse. He was a popular character and people used to ask after ‘Old Bill’.
Many police officers wore authoritarian-looking “Old Bill” moustaches like that adorning a famous W.W.1 cartoon character ‘the wily old soldier in the trenches’ by Bruce Bairnsfather.

In 1917 the government used Bairnsfather’s character in posters and advertisements putting over wartime messages under the heading “Old Bill says…”. For this campaign the character was dressed in a special constable’s uniform.

The original vehicles used by the Flying Squad all had the registration letters BYL, so the squad became known as ‘the Bill’.
The London County Council at one time registered all police, fire and ambulance vehicles with the letters BYL

According to old Etonian illegal gaming club organizer and author the late Robin Cook (‘Derek Raymond’), ‘old bill’ is a racing term for an outsider or unknown quantity. From the point of view of the underworld, police would be outsiders

Despite all these suggestions, the earliest documented usage traced by the Metropolitan Police Historical Museum is from 1970 and ‘Partridge’s Dictionary of Slang’. Without giving citations the book dates “Old Bill” from the 1950s “or perhaps earlier”. So the term may possibly be post W.W.2.

Originally posted by SOFTLAD
Yes they do as well and i dont know why to that either ?

Doesn’t that have something to do with Robert Peel, they were originally called Peelers, and I believe Bobbies is just an play on his name.

Dont forget:

The Pigs and the Filth also. :p

Yes they do as well and i dont know why to that either ?

thought they went by Bobby.

No idea but a very good question ?

Re: The Bill!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by steve rowell
Can anyone tell me why the Police in Britain are called the Bill

Or – more correctly – the Old Bill. – Nermal;)