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Napalm

When was napalm invented and when used for the first time? Am I right if I say that during WWII USA already used napalm?

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By: mixtec - 2nd August 2003 at 18:08

I dont think I have to explain to anyone here how volatile and explosive gasoline is. So if someone were to want to make napalm for ilicite use, I would encourage them to do so because the most likely person theyre going to hurt is themselves. Making homemade explosives is dangerous bussiness which is why most terrorists buy theirs.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd August 2003 at 04:30

Gee whiz Geforce… that would be like accepting personal responsibility for things you do… How often Have you been told to keep your anti American views off here… }>

(Just kidding… read this… from an older member to the younger members of this forum…)

Can’t believe we made it.

According to today’s regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s probably shouldn’t have survived.

Our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based paint which was promptly chewed and licked.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to play with pans.

When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip flops and fluorescent ‘clackers’ on our wheels.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.
Riding in the front passenger seat was a treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle -tasted the same.

We ate dripping sandwiches, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy pop with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.

We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no one actually died from this.

We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us all day and no one minded.

We did not have Playstations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99 channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet chat rooms. We had friends – we went outside and found them.

We played elastics and street rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt.

We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones and teeth, and there were no lawsuits. They were accidents. We learnt not to do the same thing again.

We had fights, punched each other hard and got black and blue – we learned to get over it.

We walked to friend’s homes.

We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate live stuff, and although we were told it would happen, we did not have very many eyes out, nor did the live stuff live inside us forever.

We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood.

Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of.
They actually sided with the law. Imagine that !

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.

And you’re one of them. Congratulations!

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By: Geforce - 1st August 2003 at 23:58

He Arthur it’s a forum. Why should you restrict yourself. You don’t have a responsability here, if someone’s dumb enough to make napalm at home, well, so be it.

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By: Arthur - 1st August 2003 at 23:40

The napalm recipe has been removed, but i do recommend re-reading that post.

While i am absolutely sure anyone with half a brain will be able to find the recipe for it (and for far nastier stuff as well), on second thoughts i do concur to the inflammatory* content of my previous post. As such, i do think now that posting the recipe for Flammagel in this forum was out of place, and could cause misunderstandings considering this forum or the people attending.

* = Yes, that was a horrible pun.

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By: Hand87_5 - 1st August 2003 at 08:53

Originally posted by Sauron
History of Napalm can be found at:

www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic919.htm

Regards

Sauron

Yeah , lovely stuff 🙁 , thanks Sauron.

Hopefully it will never be used again

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st August 2003 at 06:35

For use in Europe with old stone buildings and such it was found that dropping HE first and then incendiaries second was the best way to get a good firestorm going. The HE blew the roofs and walls of the buildings open and exposed all the flammable material within. Lots of different chemicals were used… magnesium and phoshorus were popular. The latter was often dropped wrapped in water soaked bundles of cotton wool so that they didn’t start to burn till after the cotton wool had fully dried. Another fun trick was to drop Potassium or Sodium with other incendiaries like Phosphorus. Both Potasium and Sodium will start fires if doused in water.. that is why sand or earth was often used to put out small fires as they may have K or Na in them… in certain concentrations putting water on K or Na can cause an explosion. (They tend to give off hydrogen gas when immersed in water and they heat up to very high temperatures as well… a dangerous combination.)

In Japan the construction materials used of wood and paper made Japanese cities dreadfully vulnerable to incendiary attack. In one attack on Tokyo more people died than were killed by the immediate effects of the two nuclear weapons later dropped. (More than 200,000 perished).

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By: Sauron - 1st August 2003 at 03:57

History of Napalm can be found at:

www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic919.htm

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By: Hand87_5 - 31st July 2003 at 22:39

I guess I read somewhere that military Napalm was made with some kind of Kerosen .

Can someone confirm?

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By: kev35 - 31st July 2003 at 22:01

Arthur,

a nice recipe indeed. But I think you should delete it. Some mindless little tw&t is bound to give it a go and end up hurting someone.

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By: GZYL - 31st July 2003 at 21:46

Nice little recipe you have there Arthur!

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By: Arthur - 31st July 2003 at 21:18

I don’t think napalm was used on firebomb attacks on Germany, but it was definately used by the USAAF against Japan. I think the first use of industrially produced jellified fuel for firebombs was the March 9th, 1945 bombing raid on Tokyo. Prior to that, the stuff had probably seen some small tactical use, and i think in a more improvised form it existed a bit longer.

Of course, ‘napalm’ existed long before the word itself became used for the stuff (Naphtane and palmitate, both of which together happen to be some kind of soap, mixed with fuel, and produced by Dow Chemicals) dropped on Korea and especially Vietnam. It’s basically a jellified fuel, and while various sorts of fuel are often used, it doesn’t really matter for the efficiency of the stuff.

Home-made napalm for dummies, for your lonely summer nights… better not make napalm, try the following:

Ingredients:
flour (cheap stuff will do just fine)
milk, skimmed (buy whatchamacallit stuff at your ???-shop, or ask for used -damn, forgot- at your local ….).
Mbanza or any other totally exotic yet undrinkable third-world syrupy booze made of fruits.
Cinnamon
Brown sugar
Cream

Put the flour in a bowl, and add a mixture of milk and the Mbanza (which is a Rwandese banana liquer) and mix it together. Make sure it becomes a very runny and a little bubbly – a bit of carbonated water can help if you want. As a finishing touch, add a fair pinch of cinnamon.

Take a frying pan, heat up some butter and pour in the dough. As soon as one side has become solid, sprinkle some sugar on top of the still soft side. Then flip over the pancake over. Turn the fire down really low so the sugar can caramelise. A few seconds before taking the booze-cinnamon-calories pancake out of the frying pan, put a lump of refrigerated cream on top to make it just a bit runny when serving.

Yummie!

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By: GZYL - 31st July 2003 at 19:58

The idea for Napalm came from a P-38 pilot who dropped his auxiliary fuel tanks when there was still fuel in them, they exploded and so, a special mixture we call Napalm was born so the P-38 pilots principle could be used in combat. That’s what I remember from a documentary anyway!

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By: Geforce - 31st July 2003 at 18:38

thanks man, i can use that

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By: shorthome - 31st July 2003 at 18:24

found on:
http://www.ww2guide.com/bombs.shtml

Napalm
Napalm essentially “jellied” gasoline saw its first combat use during the invasion of Tinian in June 1944. Dropped by fighter-bombers and bombers it was used in subsequent assaults in the Pacific. For example, during 16 days of ‘softening up’ attacks proceeding the invasion of Iwo Jima B-24s dropped 1,111 drums of Napalm on the island.

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By: Geforce - 31st July 2003 at 18:22

My professor claims that it was only used in Vietnam. I said he was BS’ing (not with that words :)), but I’m trying to find info.

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By: PhantomII - 31st July 2003 at 17:51

I’m not sure napalm was used during the Second World War.

It was certainly used by the time of the Korean War as F-80’s and F-84’s used it on a very regular basis.

As for World War II the closest thing I can think of is the incindiary bombs dropped by B-29’s on various Japanese cities.

If napalm was used during World War II, I’ve never read about it.

Please do report what you find Geforce as I’d be interested to learn about it.

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By: mixtec - 31st July 2003 at 16:53

napalm is a mixture of naptha and gasoline. It was extensively used by the byzantines, and was refered to as “greek fire” They used to shoot it out hoses on to other ships. When naptha is on fire, it cant be put out with water, infact water spreads the flames. It amazes me it was never used passed this age in sea warfare as once you set a ship alight with naptha, there is almost no way to put the fire out.

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By: Hand87_5 - 31st July 2003 at 16:05

I suspect those were phosphorus bombs

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By: shorthome - 31st July 2003 at 16:02

On the German and Japanese cities they used firebombs to create the firestorms bud I do not know if that was Napalm.

I do not know if they use napalm annymore bud the fuelairbomb is one of the replacements. Only the working way is different.

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By: 140 Sqn - 31st July 2003 at 13:08

any recent pic on naplam?

or izzit still in use?

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