Shame on me 😎

So you are human and not an encyclopedia after all 😛

Its a travesty to name that frigate “Independence”! Name goes from a supercarrier to a………….:mad:

Steady on mate, these ships are revolutionary in all aspects of the naval service; Their design, then crewing, their role even their employment. I had some friends on CV-62 and they are proud that the name has lived on and that it’s gone to such an important vessel as this!

They both look like awesome ships so my vote would make them both winners. I would build 27 LCS-1 Freedom Class ships for the Atlantic fleet and build 27 LCS-2 Independence Class ships for the Pacific fleets.

A split build may still be on the cards mate, both vessels do have their own unique quallities: 1 has the shallower draft where as 2 is more flexible with organic air operations! It’s interesting to see the costings release of LCS3 and 4- the Austral vessel costs less, is bigger yet has the same crew numbers, can handle two helo ops (up to MH-60 sized) on flight deck at the same time and provides more room for mission modules or more importantly can interchange mission modules in far less time than the rival.

The Air Force should have done this with the YF-22 and the YF-23 and put both fighters into service.

If you ask me, the USAF needs it’s head read on the YF-23 contention- it should have won hands down! But that’s for the Air Force section, this is the navy section.