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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-01-03 AT 05:40 PM (GMT)]Anyone use a browser other than the big [font color=blue]e[font color=blue].[font color=black] Im wondering about opera, its not free, and at $40 it not even cheap. But I hear it better except that it doesnt support many plugins (MS propriatary).

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By: frankvw - 30th January 2003 at 06:59

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I don’t think you made a fool of yourself… This type of question comes up veeeeeery ofte, but mostly, people are hypocryts, and don’t want/dare to ask. (Such questions come everyday…)

At least now it will help them 🙂

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By: mixtec - 30th January 2003 at 00:08

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Impressive graphics, thanks Frank. I just made a huge public fool of myself forgetting SaveAs is under the file icon and a even bigger fool of myself drying to download a GIF onto my comp that wasnt part of a file.

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By: frankvw - 29th January 2003 at 21:28

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Ok, let’s go for the graphical tutorial 🙂

Just look at the pics 😉
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http://www.keypublishing.com/forum/importedfiles/3e384759b2aebe83.jpg
http://www.keypublishing.com/forum/importedfiles/3e384767b2c77086.jpg

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By: shalav - 29th January 2003 at 20:55

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mixtec:

For newsgroups I usually use outlook express or xnews. But then I don’t download large binaries. Agent is good, but it cost approx $ 30 to register in order to fully utilise its features. I’ve found xnews to be a very good newsreader. It is free, and downloadable from xnews.newsguy.com – if you like it, you should make a donation thru paypal – I think its worth it. This newsreader seamlessly handles the new “yenc” coding everyone seems to use nowadays in usenet. Multipart binaries are also handled seamlessly. OE cannot handle “yenc”, yet!

Of course it is not as intuitive as outlook express, but I figured that if I have to learn a new program I may as get the free one and learn that instead of paying $29 for Agent. It does everything agent does for free.

Eric:

Netscape 7.x uses the mozilla engine, and it has the same features as mozilla. However the advantage with mozilla is that it does not put AOL all over the place. In my installations of mozilla I have also chosen not to install the email and news programs, as outlook express is a very good client for email, and I use xnews for newsgroups. Mozilla and Netscape newsreaders cannot handle multipart binaries yet. Agent/OE/xnews can, and given that xnews is free and can handle “yenc”, I use it most of the time.

cheers.

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By: mixtec - 29th January 2003 at 19:54

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Frankvw- Ive tried right clicking on a blank spot on the site, but SaveAs is greyed out on the window that pops up. Is there a more specifac way of doing this?

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By: frankvw - 29th January 2003 at 19:13

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File…save as … ok

And it is all. you have a .htm file + a directory with the pics. Save it on hdd first (just in case)

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By: mixtec - 29th January 2003 at 17:30

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-01-03 AT 05:46 PM (GMT)]Thanks all for the in depth info.

Shalav- Ill give mozilla a try. And speaking of newsgroup browsers, what do you think of Agent? Thats what all the hardcore usenet guys seem to use.

Frankvw- How do you SaveAs the AFM forums? It wouldnt work for me, I tried to put it on floppy.

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By: shalav - 29th January 2003 at 06:53

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-01-03 AT 06:55 AM (GMT)]I use Mozilla with Windows and Linux – its free, pretty good and downlaodable from www.mozilla.org. Most common plug-ins work, and it has the handy “tabbed browsing” option. That means if I click on links I can choose for those links to open in a new tab rather than a new browser window. A neat way to keep a track of all windows. Other options let me disallow pop-ups, and I have found that de-selecting pop-ups usually means about 90-95% of pop-ups/pop-unders don’t even appear. I really like that.

When browsing discussion boards while using linux, I prefer to use “links”. Its a very good text browser with more capabilities than lynx. It allows me to use the mouse to select hyperlinks and images are automatically opened in an image browser only if I choose to see them. Browsing is really fast and page downloads are quick, as I don’t have to wait for images to load.

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By: KabirT - 29th January 2003 at 06:44

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Opera is not bad… but ofcours i prefer IE anyday!

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By: ELP - 29th January 2003 at 04:36

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Opera is very fast. It reads web pages and follows the rules of HTML formating to the exception of all else. Since many people use Frontpage to make websites. Opera tends not to display these pages 100% correctly all the time because Frontpage in it’s default setting doesn’t do 100% compliant HTML code. Also, Frontpage on some of its cute functions like glowing links and mouseover functions, sometimes uses Microsofts verson of Java ( not SUNs ) so again some stuff may not read correctly in Opera. Again, same with Javascript snipets. Stuff that you create using Frontpage may not display the way you want unless you use IE.
Database connectivity in Frontpage? for dead simple stuff like connecting to an access database Frontpage will use all kinds of Active X / Visual Basic instead of traditional “com” opjects in ASP. So again expecting Opera to display some of this stuff is more luck than anything. If you want dynamic ASP code that you can read; hand code it.

Opera has a cool pop up stopper that works on the fly. So for myself I use IE and go along with the trend so there is no hassle .. “baaaaaaa ” Just make sure you update your IE at the Microsoft website and get the latest patches. IE has all kinds of security exploits. More and more people are making webpages that are not 100% HTML compliant.

I used to like Netscape but it is screwy now and installs AOL all over the place.

Neoplanet is cool. Haven’t used it in over a year.

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By: Arthur - 28th January 2003 at 23:55

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I used Opera for about a year, when IE was in it’s 4-something days. I rather liked it back then, but i hardly remember why now 😀 I do believe it made it was the separate ‘channel’ for streaming media it had somewhere, so i could listen to the radio on-line without going for a definate blue-screen-of-death with the explicit deleted real audo.

I HATE REAL MEDIA! BAH! GO AWAY!

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By: frankvw - 28th January 2003 at 22:25

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Sorry… I use IE… The reason: I don’t like Netscape, Neoplanet is nice, but I find it rather boring to use, and never tried Opera.

BUT the main reason is: IE works fine, and I don’t want to loose space / time to install something else that will fill my registry, and add 10 services I don’t need + addware…

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