SA 80 with grenade launcher?

RE: SA 80 with grenade launcher?

BAe Systems ==> royal ordinace ==> heckle and koch

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I thought BAe systems owned HK, but then again, is RO part of BAe also?? I don’t know… I’m having a bad day!!

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Hmmm….G36 would be a nice change.Beside -RO nows owns HK right?

RE: SA 80 with grenade launcher?

…”Change Arms”.

Hehehehe perhaps the next time they give teh order to change arms they should go for a more reliable rifle like an AK or even later model M16.

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Hi Tomel – Well they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I’d rather have a weapon that gives me a better than even chance against the opposition than one that looks good. Ever wondered why the boys from Hereford use something else!

P.S. It’s also bloody awful for doing ceremonial drill with – next time you watch Trooping the colour, note how many times thay have to give the order “Change Arms”.

KeithMac

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I didn’t say its a good weapon but rather nice (in a sense of look)to have-the ones with the grenade launcher really look different.Never seen SA80 myself-all of the Hereford boys who came here used US/German weapons.

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I agree with you both… I agree with Tomel that it is a nice looking weapon, though I also agree with Keith that it is a bit of a dog.
I think it is inexcusible that the problems have not been worked out of it yet.

RE: SA 80 with grenade launcher?

Tomel, Where do you get the idea that the SA80 is a GOOD weapon. Have you not heard about it’s abysmal performance during the big Gulf exercise last year?
During my time in the forces I’ve had the Lee Enfield .303, the 7.62 FN SLR and the SA.80 as a personal weapon. The .303 was ancient technology but you could take out a target at 500/600 mtrs without a problem, being bolt action it had a slow rate of fire, and it moved off target a lot during the re cocking, but it killed things at long range. The 7.62 SLR fired a big round accurately and will kill your enemy at 500/600 mtrs just like a .303. It’ll go through 15mm of mild steel at 200 mtrs, so hiding behind flimsy protection won’t help the enemy much. It had a good rate of fire, and provided you kept a good grip on it, it stayed on target between shots.I’ve fired thousands of rounds from one and never had a jam or a breakage. Now the SA.80 has a tiddly little round slightly under 6mm in diameter, which won’t necessarily kill the opposition with one hit, it needs to be kept dust free or it jams, if on the other hand it’s a cold damp day, don’t try to use the optical sights, the heat from your face fogs the lenses! You can totally bugger it up by fitting the gas plug in the wrong way (yes, it is possible)It’s just cost an arm and a leg to try and modify out all the snags we’ve had with it, and the trials are still on going. Give me the good old SLR any day, come to that I’d rather trust my life to a WW1 vintage Enfield.

KeithMac