By: Grey Area - 27th March 2006 at 18:00
The Webmaster has decided to close the Army and Naval forums and I’m afraid this subject is off-topic in here.
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By: pilatus - 27th March 2006 at 16:42
Ireland IS seperate from NATO, however Ireland is a member nation of both the UN and PfP with intentions to join NATO in the next few years. This is being met with serious opposition from various politicans within the government, mainly due to the fact that if we do join NATO the Irish Defence Spenditiure will have to be increased.
Britain does not ignore us at all in any way. The Royal Navy aids us with Coastal Defence and Fisheries Protection as well as SAR. In ’96, I believe it was the Royal Navy was requested to support Irish Navy actions against Japanese Fishermen fishing illegally in EU waters.
The British also train our Special Forces (we have a Pathfinder Squadron and an SAS style force known as Rangers – I am proud to say that I have two cousins who serve as Rangers)!
The AUG was chosen on economic grounds – it was offered cheaper than the SA80A1 and M16A2 and offered the same capabilities.
Britain does keep various Irish Regiments in its ranks such as the Irish Guards which I trained for and the Royal Irish Rangers (not to be confused with the Rangers I mentioned before)as well as the British run RUC or Royal Ulster Constabulary.
To say that Britain has nothing to do with Irelands defence is basically c*** from someone who does not understand the situation fully. The RAF provides Air Defence to the Republic due to the fact that Ireland has no fighters and relies on 65mm BOFORS AAA for air defence.
Irish troops often transfer to the British Army due to the fact that Irelands policies are based on NON-Interference unless requested by the UN…and the Irish Defence Force is quite often requested. Britains Armed Forces also offer more intense training and better prospects.
hey just looking over old threads and it is obvious not many here understand the irish defence forces at all!firstly 3years ago or whatever it was this thread was posted Ireland had no intentions of joining NATO.!why because there is no need!we dont have any enemies as such that would require us to be part of such a military club if you like!and no RAF fighters do not protect irish airspace!maybe they could request for assistance if there was a situation but they do not provide defence at all for us.also the the ADR(Air Defence Regiment)are not equipped with 65mm AAA!the ADR is equipped with 40mm EL70 Bofors anti aircraft guns which are directed by flycatcher radar,they also have are equipped with RBS70 SAMs which are guided by giraffe radar,12.5mm heavy machine guns are also used.also another point ireland trains its own rangers but they take part in training operations with foreign forces just like any other country!for more info visit www.irishmilitaryonline.com
www.irishairpics.com
www.military.ie and use the search functions for any specific info!
By: Flanker112 - 25th July 2002 at 12:27
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
Ireland IS seperate from NATO, however Ireland is a member nation of both the UN and PfP with intentions to join NATO in the next few years. This is being met with serious opposition from various politicans within the government, mainly due to the fact that if we do join NATO the Irish Defence Spenditiure will have to be increased.
Britain does not ignore us at all in any way. The Royal Navy aids us with Coastal Defence and Fisheries Protection as well as SAR. In ’96, I believe it was the Royal Navy was requested to support Irish Navy actions against Japanese Fishermen fishing illegally in EU waters.
The British also train our Special Forces (we have a Pathfinder Squadron and an SAS style force known as Rangers – I am proud to say that I have two cousins who serve as Rangers)!
The AUG was chosen on economic grounds – it was offered cheaper than the SA80A1 and M16A2 and offered the same capabilities.
Britain does keep various Irish Regiments in its ranks such as the Irish Guards which I trained for and the Royal Irish Rangers (not to be confused with the Rangers I mentioned before)as well as the British run RUC or Royal Ulster Constabulary.
To say that Britain has nothing to do with Irelands defence is basically c*** from someone who does not understand the situation fully. The RAF provides Air Defence to the Republic due to the fact that Ireland has no fighters and relies on 65mm BOFORS AAA for air defence.
Irish troops often transfer to the British Army due to the fact that Irelands policies are based on NON-Interference unless requested by the UN…and the Irish Defence Force is quite often requested. Britains Armed Forces also offer more intense training and better prospects.
By: Rabie - 24th July 2002 at 23:23
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
irish military is souther ireland – ie 100% seperate from UK MOD. the UK excludes ireland and ireland is a sperate country not even in nato.
check out their hazegray page for more info or ask adrain/avon19?? (can’t reember the last two numbers)
rabie :9
By: tomel - 24th July 2002 at 03:38
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
Flanker,
I really have no idea on this issue:
Irish DF is not part of UK armed forces?
Irish DF is part of Ireland?
Why do they opted to use the AUG?
By: Glenn - 23rd July 2002 at 15:06
Niamh and Roisin
The pictures!
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By: Glenn - 23rd July 2002 at 12:43
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
The Roisin it is, but the Niamh is the newest addition, commisioned late last Year. More pics as soon as the file upload is working!
Regards, Glenn.
By: Flanker112 - 23rd July 2002 at 11:32
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 23-07-02 AT 11:33 AM (GMT)]Yeap, thats the L.E. Roisin…sister ship of the L.E. Niamh. Here is what I could find out on the web about them:
Built by: Appledore Shipbuilders Ltd.
Outfitted by: MES
Crew: 44
Water Displacement: 1,500 ton
Length: 78.84m
Width: 14.00m
Speed: 22kts
Weaponry:
2 x 57mm “Wallop” Mortars
1 x 62mm OTO Melara cannon
2 x 12.7mm MSHB machine guns
Radars are NATO standard air search/sea search
No decoys
No chopper – offically
These ships are really being treated with some degree of secrecy for some reason, given that they are classified as just “off shore patrol vessels”, and given that the main task of the Irish Naval Reserve is to stop illegal fishing in EU waters and halt drug smugglers in Irish waters. Here’s a better view of her, quite nice really.
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By: tomel - 23rd July 2002 at 06:29
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
Flanker,
The corvette looking vessel-is it Roisin??Latest addition?UK built?Weapons and sensors?
By: Flanker112 - 22nd July 2002 at 10:24
RE: Malaysian Army mixed images.
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-07-02 AT 10:24 AM (GMT)]Cool pics!!! Just to be different, how about the Irish Defence Force, including the new ship Roisin?!?
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