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The Golden Jubilee

What do we all think of the Golden Jubilee? Are all the celebrations appropriate or do you think its all a load of pants?

I am all for the Jubilee celebrations…I think its a point of the UK’s history that should be recognised…it always has been.

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Ben

p.s (Who saw the news report on the Queen’s visit to the northeast of England (Newcastle) and the streaker!!!!! that was funny!)

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By: T5 - 8th May 2002 at 19:40

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We rely on the Royal Family for tourism, they don’t really serve any other purposes!

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By: kev35 - 8th May 2002 at 18:33

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Dutchy,

I think you’ll find Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth actually rules nothing. The country is led by an elected Government who do not really have to seek permission from the Queen to go about the business of Government. Out of courtesy and tradition the Monarch is informed of events. The Queens speech, which is given at the state opening of Parliament is in fact written by the Government.

I still believe the country needs a Monarchy but I feel this Monarchy is being led by a woman, whom I have no personal grievance against, but who to me appears to lack both the leadership and the humility of Monarchs who have gone before.

The young people of Britain today, largely, see the Royal Family as nothing more than a group of extremely wealthy people who are serving no useful purpose at great expense. The Monarchy needs rejuvenating and modernising. With the deaths of Princess Diana and the Queen Mother, the Royal Family has lost much of its human, caring side. Since the death of the Queen Mother there is said to have been squabbles between the younger members of the family over who is to recieve which property? These are people with wealth beyond our imagining and can hardly be described as setting any kind of example to their subjects. The Queen has promoted morality and ‘family values’, yet three of her children are divorced, one is an admitted adulterer, the Queen held petty grievances against Princess Diana even after her death and now senior members argue over who gets the biggest slice of the Queen Mothers ‘cake’! I find this to be beyond belief.

Rabie,

the longevity of your reign is not neccessarily a reason to celebrate it. How long have the Kurds in Iraq been subject to the rule of Saddam Hussein? Should he get a long service award as well?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and rightly so. It’s our differences which give us all value. I hope I am proved wrong and the Monarchy regains its respect, but personally, without serious changes, I see the Monarchy coming to an inglorious end.

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By: Rabie - 8th May 2002 at 16:19

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queen vic rulled longer, then someone else (a male) then she is third (last time i ckecked)

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By: Dutchy - 8th May 2002 at 10:06

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She must be the longest ruling head of state in the world. I think you should celebrate, why not? If you can have a party, then you should’ve a party :-).

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By: Glenn - 8th May 2002 at 09:42

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> p.s (Who saw the news report on the Queen’s visit to the
>northeast of England (Newcastle) and the streaker!!!!!
>that was funny!)

Saw it too, Classic! Must have been his day off, nothing better to do. He feels like its all a lot of bollocks I guess. 🙂

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By: Rabie - 7th May 2002 at 22:24

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she made a promise at the time of her father’s death to carry out her role for life so that could be going back on her word.

im really in favour of her – other members of the family impress me a lot less, but im still a monarchists.

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By: Dazza - 7th May 2002 at 21:30

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Kev, I agree with much you have said, being a fellow Brit I think the length of the Queen’s reign should be celebrated, and lets face it, no one does the whole pomp and circumstance thing better than the Brits, I also think that Charles becoming King could be just the thing to renew peoples interest in the monarchy and put a fresh, up to date face (to a certain degree) on the whole thing.
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By: kev35 - 7th May 2002 at 19:59

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 07-05-02 AT 08:02 PM (GMT)]Firstly, as a Brit, I think this country of ours would not be the same without a Monarchy. The Royal Family is, or should be, the very epitome of duty. For many people in this country the pomp and ceremony surrounding Royal events is an integral part of our national identity, as seen by inhabitants of the UK or, more importantly perhaps, those abroad.

As to the jubilee, I understand it to be a time of national celebration. The question now is whether the reign of Queen Elizabeth II is worthy of celebration. If it is just about longevity then yes it is a time for celebration, but if it is about the quality of her reign then for me the whole jubilee comes into doubt. I feel our present Monarch has not changed with the times and she seems very much out of step with modern society.

A few examples of this are in the early nineties the Queen described one year as her ‘Annis Horibilis’, her misfortune revolving largely around a fire at Windsor Castle. The repairs were paid for not by the Royal Family but by the general public. I can now go and visit the castle restored to its former glory, but I have to pay admission to get in. In the year that the British Government has made many national museums free to enter, It is a pity the same cannot be said for the Royal Family.

A second case would be the disgraceful handling of the death of Princess Diana. The Queen was reluctant to break protocol by lowering her standard to half mast as a mark of respect until she finally bowed to public pressure. Also her reluctance to make a public appearance to talk about the death of her daughter in law drew much criticism. This shows a great lack of respect for Diana, Prince Charles or her grandsons.

It has also been revealed that the Queen is believed to have made a deal with the Conservative Government in 1993, to waive inheritance tax due upon the eventual death of the Queen Mother. If you’re fortunate enough to have a few million pounds to leave in your will, see if you can get the same deal.

A final example of how out of touch she is with the nation is the recent speech where she appeared to rule out abdication. This must have been a cruel blow to Prince Charles, who, perhaps contrary to public opinion, I feel would make a decent King.

So, sadly for me, the jubilee is not something to celebrate. I fear the passing of the Queen Mother was the death knell for the Monarchy unless they agree to change, and at present, that seems very unlikely.

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By: T5 - 7th May 2002 at 18:08

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I personally will not be celebrating it… I couldn’t be bothered with all the hassle.

Yeah, it’s going to be a day to remember, but to me, it’s just going to be another day.

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