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SAS Denmark goes for A319s

Another type enters the SAS world… this just in:

SAS confirms switch to A319s
Victoria Moores, Lisbon (15Mar05, 16:35 GMT, 204 words)
Scandinavian Airlines has confirmed that it is switching its outstanding order for four Airbus A321s to the smaller Airbus A319.
SAS placed a 12-strong order for A321s in 2000 and has taken delivery of eight of the aircraft to date. But after numerous deferrals SAS has opted to change the remaining aircraft to A319s because of overcapacity in the Scandinavian market.
Speaking to ATI at a Star Alliance event in Lisbon, SAS Group president and CEO Jorgen Lindegaard said: “They will be A319s…we need smaller aircraft and we have now positioned all of our Airbuses in Copenhagen, so the Danish company will have them in operation. Fewer seats are really what we need.”
The aircraft are currently due for delivery at the beginning of 2006.
SAS had been considering selling its existing A321s at one point, owing to the overcapacity problem, but Lindegaard says: β€œWe have stopped [the sale]. Volume is going up on inter-Scandinavian route, so we decided not to sell them.”
SAS is, however, planning to withdraw up to ten aircraft from its fleet. Its Boeing MD-90s will, says Lindegaard, be taken out of service completely while five of the ten withdrawn aircraft will be transferred to SAS Group’s Spanish operation Spanair.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

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By: robbelc - 18th March 2005 at 19:16

Thanks, just always wondered. Having just looked at my fleet list that makes sense as there are not many SE- reg aircraft in the fleet.

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By: robbelc - 18th March 2005 at 19:16

Thanks, just always wondered. Having just looked at my fleet list that makes sense as there are not many SE- reg aircraft in the fleet.

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By: Sonnenflieger - 18th March 2005 at 18:16

One SAS related question is do, for instance the SE- reg aircraft only operate Swedish routes? Or do the fleets operate in a random way?

SAS was constructed in 1946 as a consortium of three national airlines, where each airline was owned 50% by the Danish, Norwegian or Swedish government and 50% by private interests. SAS was/is 3/7th Swedish, 2/7th Danish and 2/7th Norwegian.

Until the 90s, the aircraft fleet was made up in the same way. 3/7th of the fleet were registered in Sweden, 2/7th in Denmark and 2/7th in Norway on the respective national airline in SAS (ABA Swedish Airlines, DDL Danish Airlines and DNL Norwegian Airlines). However tax rules made aircraft ownership more expensive in Sweden and Denmark than in Norway, so more and more aircraft were transferred to Norwegian register. Today, the majority of the SAS fleet is registered in Norway regardless of which part of SAS they belong to (SAS Denmark, SAS Sweden, SAS Braathens or SAS International).

It might have been so that respective country’s aircraft only operated that country’s routes in the very early beginnings, but since the late 40s country of registration has not directed where the aircraft is operated.

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By: Sonnenflieger - 18th March 2005 at 18:16

One SAS related question is do, for instance the SE- reg aircraft only operate Swedish routes? Or do the fleets operate in a random way?

SAS was constructed in 1946 as a consortium of three national airlines, where each airline was owned 50% by the Danish, Norwegian or Swedish government and 50% by private interests. SAS was/is 3/7th Swedish, 2/7th Danish and 2/7th Norwegian.

Until the 90s, the aircraft fleet was made up in the same way. 3/7th of the fleet were registered in Sweden, 2/7th in Denmark and 2/7th in Norway on the respective national airline in SAS (ABA Swedish Airlines, DDL Danish Airlines and DNL Norwegian Airlines). However tax rules made aircraft ownership more expensive in Sweden and Denmark than in Norway, so more and more aircraft were transferred to Norwegian register. Today, the majority of the SAS fleet is registered in Norway regardless of which part of SAS they belong to (SAS Denmark, SAS Sweden, SAS Braathens or SAS International).

It might have been so that respective country’s aircraft only operated that country’s routes in the very early beginnings, but since the late 40s country of registration has not directed where the aircraft is operated.

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By: robbelc - 18th March 2005 at 17:28

One SAS related question is do, for instance the SE- reg aircraft only operate Swedish routes? Or do the fleets operate in a random way?

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By: robbelc - 18th March 2005 at 17:28

One SAS related question is do, for instance the SE- reg aircraft only operate Swedish routes? Or do the fleets operate in a random way?

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By: DashQ - 18th March 2005 at 16:33

OMG I wish they would make up their minds. It beginning to look stupid all the different types of aircraft they have. In an age when most airlines are picking one aircraft and sticking to it. The might as well pick A320s Im sure they could fill them espeically on some of their European routes and the A320 is a hole lot better than the A319.

Operationally, having a mixture of types from the A318/19/20/21 series isn’t too much of a problem since they are desgined with a high level of commonality in mind so having a mixture of these is still a rational fleet.

I’m sure there are some extra costs involved with a mixture, but I think these are extremely minimal.

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By: DashQ - 18th March 2005 at 16:33

OMG I wish they would make up their minds. It beginning to look stupid all the different types of aircraft they have. In an age when most airlines are picking one aircraft and sticking to it. The might as well pick A320s Im sure they could fill them espeically on some of their European routes and the A320 is a hole lot better than the A319.

Operationally, having a mixture of types from the A318/19/20/21 series isn’t too much of a problem since they are desgined with a high level of commonality in mind so having a mixture of these is still a rational fleet.

I’m sure there are some extra costs involved with a mixture, but I think these are extremely minimal.

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By: Sonnenflieger - 18th March 2005 at 10:55

Oh, right. So does that mean that we should start referring to Boeing DC-3s and Boeing Phantoms, too? :p

Well, if you read Boeing’s press releases and their site that’s what they want you to say! Insane…

You never hear about an “Airbus Caravelle” or an “Airbus VC10”! πŸ˜‰

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By: Sonnenflieger - 18th March 2005 at 10:55

Oh, right. So does that mean that we should start referring to Boeing DC-3s and Boeing Phantoms, too? :p

Well, if you read Boeing’s press releases and their site that’s what they want you to say! Insane…

You never hear about an “Airbus Caravelle” or an “Airbus VC10”! πŸ˜‰

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By: tenthije - 18th March 2005 at 10:06

Betting is on… the one to corectly guess when the Tu204 will be introduced wins a price! It’s the only type they have not got by now!

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By: tenthije - 18th March 2005 at 10:06

Betting is on… the one to corectly guess when the Tu204 will be introduced wins a price! It’s the only type they have not got by now!

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By: SHAMROCK321 - 18th March 2005 at 09:20

OMG I wish they would make up their minds. It beginning to look stupid all the different types of aircraft they have. In an age when most airlines are picking one aircraft and sticking to it. The might as well pick A320s Im sure they could fill them espeically on some of their European routes and the A320 is a hole lot better than the A319.

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By: SHAMROCK321 - 18th March 2005 at 09:20

OMG I wish they would make up their minds. It beginning to look stupid all the different types of aircraft they have. In an age when most airlines are picking one aircraft and sticking to it. The might as well pick A320s Im sure they could fill them espeically on some of their European routes and the A320 is a hole lot better than the A319.

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By: Grey Area - 18th March 2005 at 09:10

Oh, right. So does that mean that we should start referring to Boeing DC-3s and Boeing Phantoms, too? :p

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By: Grey Area - 18th March 2005 at 09:10

Oh, right. So does that mean that we should start referring to Boeing DC-3s and Boeing Phantoms, too? :p

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By: Grey Area - 18th March 2005 at 08:42

What’s a Boeing MD-90??? :confused:

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By: Grey Area - 18th March 2005 at 08:42

What’s a Boeing MD-90??? :confused:

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