C17

Sorry chaps, this thread is 7 and a half years old and should not have been resurrected.

A good workhorse. 🙂

@Whiskey Delta the links don’t seem to work 🙁

Saw a C-17 in Bagram a while back. Looked awesome at night with all that green lighting!

Isn’t there (a) Qatar C17(s) that flies as a psuedo-Civilian, with the airline colours. The theory was that it would be used for humanitarian relief where a military cargo might not be accepted.

Edit…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mthird3rdaviation/5080733741/

Shouldn’t the above post be in Modern Military? :confused:

U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III

U.S. Air Force to Get Five More C-17s

• The U.S. Air Force has awarded Boeing a $693 million firm-fixed price contract modification to buy five additional C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifters.

Here are 2 virtual tours of the C-17:

First is the cockpit:

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/video/md17wb1.htm

Second is the cargo area:

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/video/md17wb3.htm

Very cool looking.

Ah yes…. 😀

UPS you mean ?

I guess there isn’t a sarcasm Smilie. 🙂

Yes , I know it’s pretty weird to talk about the C17 here.
However I kinda remember that I read somewhere that Douglas (ooops Boeing sorry :diablo: ) had some plans to make a civil freighter from the C17 , does someone know more?

Yes the USAF (and Boeing) would like a civil outfit to buy “Civilianized” C-17s for outsized freight. In addition to typical cargo charter use, the planes would be under contract as part of the CRAF whenthe need arose.
Boeing would sell more planes, the USAF likes it because it would help keep the production line open giving the service more flexability in its purchases…not to mention a neat airlifter available when the CRAF is activated.

UPS you mean ?

Brown company? Must be FedEx. 😀 😉

Whiskey Delta,
I’m at McGuire in the Reserves..I fly for a big Brown company in civilian life…Jumpseat alot on Continental out of EWR maybe I’ll meet you there one day,
TTP

Thanks for the info TTP. Where will you be based? It sure is a great looking airplane, have fun flying it. 🙂

Whiskey Delta,

The C-17 has two sticks and 2 HUDs…No need for a yoke, and it never had a yoke, always sticks…Its a fly by wire plane..as far as bases go there are several. Charleston was the first back in 1992..since then McChord AFB in Washinton, McGuire will be getting our first jet next week, the Guard has them here in Jackson Mississippi, the RAF flies 4 of them in England…and soon March AFB in California..also the main training base in Altus OK….Its an awesome plane..just Imagine 500,000lbs lands on a 3500 ft runway!!
Take Care,
TTP
Hand, the McGuire jets have a blue tail flash with a small P-38 lightning on it to honor Tommy McGuire a WWII pilot with 38 kills who was from New Jersey.
Have fun in California

Hand 87-5

Heres some answers to your questions, First the “C” does stand for Cargo, “KC” may stand for Kerosene/Cargo? I’m currently in C-17 training as we speak! the commercial version of the C-17 was an attempt to keep production lines rolling after the initial USAF order for 120 C-17’s were built. Originally the USAF wanted to buy 220, but Clinton axed that idea. The plan was that private freight companies order C-17’s and the US Govt would award them contracts for hauling freight and troops so as to help them defray the huge purchase costs (over 200 million) Of course nobody bought any, but since then the British have leased 4 and may buy more, and more importantly the USAF has ordered anadditional 60 jets, and hopes to buy a total of 220…So the production lines are running very smoothly and my squadron is slated to recieve our first C-17 direct from the factory at Long Beach, next week!
If I remember correctly, you flew 727’s, So Do I in my civilian life…this thing is no 727!!! It literally flies an approach like a Navy jet landing on an aircraft carrier….You fly Angle of attack..never look at your airspeed, and climb or descend on glidepath using only power!!! a different way to fly,but it allows it to land at over 500,000lbs on a 3500ft runway with room to spare!
Take Care,
TTP

Well , I will be in Long Beach on next week , maybe I will see your bird!

Thanks for the info and have fun flying it. 🙂

TTP. Are there any bases for the C-17 other than Charleston? Also, do all the C-17’s have a stick for the left seat and yoke for the right? A few years ago I got up in the cockpit of one and spent some time talking with the crew. If I remember correctly the stick was implimented as it required less physical movement by the pilot which was helped with use of the HUD. Is that correct? I didn’t think at the time to ask whether that was a standard setup.

Hand 87-5

Heres some answers to your questions, First the “C” does stand for Cargo, “KC” may stand for Kerosene/Cargo? I’m currently in C-17 training as we speak! the commercial version of the C-17 was an attempt to keep production lines rolling after the initial USAF order for 120 C-17’s were built. Originally the USAF wanted to buy 220, but Clinton axed that idea. The plan was that private freight companies order C-17’s and the US Govt would award them contracts for hauling freight and troops so as to help them defray the huge purchase costs (over 200 million) Of course nobody bought any, but since then the British have leased 4 and may buy more, and more importantly the USAF has ordered anadditional 60 jets, and hopes to buy a total of 220…So the production lines are running very smoothly and my squadron is slated to recieve our first C-17 direct from the factory at Long Beach, next week!
If I remember correctly, you flew 727’s, So Do I in my civilian life…this thing is no 727!!! It literally flies an approach like a Navy jet landing on an aircraft carrier….You fly Angle of attack..never look at your airspeed, and climb or descend on glidepath using only power!!! a different way to fly,but it allows it to land at over 500,000lbs on a 3500ft runway with room to spare!
Take Care,
TTP

Thanks Irish mate 🙂

Since the mid-90s, a civil variant of the C-17 is also explored, under the MD-17 and BC-17X designations. This would have specific military equipment like ECM and paratroop doors removed and be able to carry 77100 kg over a 4600 km range. First delivery could be two years after programme launch, but up to now no cargo airline seems prepared to invest in this very expensive aircraft.

Source: Flug Revue

Last time I heard about the BC-17X was about 3 years ago.
The cargo market doesn’t need the BC-17X (yet).
It’s cheaper to rent out a AN-124/AN-225, if cargo can’t be carried by other aircrafts like B747F, B767F,A300F,MD11F etc..

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